Turkish Artillery
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Had the Turkish Army buy artillery pieces from Soviet Union in the 1930s? Some French WWI made canones? Thanks in advance
eppanzer
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Eppanzer,
I'm not sure if the Turkish Army had bought and artillery from the Soviet Union but from what I remember from my father who was an Artillery man; the most common pieces were Swedish Bofors pieces.
Best Regards, Osman Levend
I'm not sure if the Turkish Army had bought and artillery from the Soviet Union but from what I remember from my father who was an Artillery man; the most common pieces were Swedish Bofors pieces.
Best Regards, Osman Levend
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Just received some images of the C73/80 at Mt Perry, Queensland. I had expected markings in Turkish script showing a gun number, build date, etc. The markings are quite puzzling - no build date or gun number in Turkish script. The only markings appear to be "Fried. Krupp Essen" in Turkish script on the top of the breech ring and the number "648" stamped on top of the breech in Roman script. There appears to be no build date on the barrel or breech.
Could this be a replacement barrel?
Regards,
Charlie
Could this be a replacement barrel?
Regards,
Charlie
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Charlie,
I believe this is a very good example concerning the great variety of Ottoman pieces used during First World War. It could very well be a replaced cannon as discussed earlier or it could also be one the pieces used by the fully German Asienkorps also known as Pascha II which had operated between Azzoun and Nablous towards the end of the war. If you could find out about where it was captured, we could perhaps have a better idea about its provenance.
Best Regards, Osman Levend
I believe this is a very good example concerning the great variety of Ottoman pieces used during First World War. It could very well be a replaced cannon as discussed earlier or it could also be one the pieces used by the fully German Asienkorps also known as Pascha II which had operated between Azzoun and Nablous towards the end of the war. If you could find out about where it was captured, we could perhaps have a better idea about its provenance.
Best Regards, Osman Levend
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Unfortunately the AWM records don't say where or when it was captured. Guns without a known capturing unit often came from a pool of surrendered guns at the end of the war.
I'm not sure many Germans troops would have had current training on the C73 in 1918 - it used the old arc sight rather than the more modern panoramic sight. The C73/80s were still being used by third line units (Landsturm) in Germany during WW1 but the first line and reserve units were using more modern guns.
The barrel probably had been processed through the Imperial Arsenal since it had the manufacturer's name inscribed in Turkish (Arabic) script.
Regards,
Charlie
I'm not sure many Germans troops would have had current training on the C73 in 1918 - it used the old arc sight rather than the more modern panoramic sight. The C73/80s were still being used by third line units (Landsturm) in Germany during WW1 but the first line and reserve units were using more modern guns.
The barrel probably had been processed through the Imperial Arsenal since it had the manufacturer's name inscribed in Turkish (Arabic) script.
Regards,
Charlie
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I've written up how to interpret the Arabic markings on WW1 Turkish artillery. I hope it will help English speakers
to make sense out of the markings on the old guns.
My special thanks go to Osman and Tosun for all their assistance with the inscriptions.
http://landships.info/landships/artille ... kings.html
Regards,
Charlie
to make sense out of the markings on the old guns.
My special thanks go to Osman and Tosun for all their assistance with the inscriptions.
http://landships.info/landships/artille ... kings.html
Regards,
Charlie
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Great work Charlie !
And many thanks acknowledging our humble assistance.
Best Regards, Osman Levend
And many thanks acknowledging our humble assistance.
Best Regards, Osman Levend
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I am interested in this mountain gun.
7cm Gebirgsgeschütz M 1890
Are there any references to were it was used or
were I can find images of it?
Jonathan
7cm Gebirgsgeschütz M 1890
Are there any references to were it was used or
were I can find images of it?
Jonathan
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Are you sure the 7cm M1890 Gebirgskanone was used by the Ottoman Army? The lists of imported guns don't seem to have this particular gun.
Certainly the 7.5cm Krupp M1893 Gebirgskanone was imported and built under licence by the Imperial Arsenal.
Regards,
Charlie
Certainly the 7.5cm Krupp M1893 Gebirgskanone was imported and built under licence by the Imperial Arsenal.
Regards,
Charlie
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A little more about artillery from the Soviet Union: 44 howitzers and 16 guns, 1800 rounds a piece, sold in 1926, 40 howitzers more in 1927. Dr. Kasparavičius A. Lithuanian Army in the political and diplomatic speculations of the Moscow (1920-1936), 1999, p. 32 (source - the protocols of the Bolshevik Party Central Committee meetings) :
http://www.lka.lt/EasyAdmin/sys/files/L ... som_80.pdf
Possible, the howitzers and guns were foreign made (British???)
http://www.lka.lt/EasyAdmin/sys/files/L ... som_80.pdf
Possible, the howitzers and guns were foreign made (British???)
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Rare survivor - a 75mm Ehrhardt Gebirgskanone (mountain gun) at Roma, Queensland (480kms west of Brisbane). Not sure if its an M14 or M15 - both types were sold to Turkey. The AWM records say it was captured by the 5th Light Horse at Amman on 25th Sept 1918. It's in bad condition but I think it's the only one in Australia.
Image credit - Dave Scorer.
Regards,
Charlie
Image credit - Dave Scorer.
Regards,
Charlie
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Türkiye Cumhuriyeti 15/24 sm Ağır Obüs (Howitzer) Skoda Pilzen imalatı Namluda 1938, yatakta 1933 1500 kg
1500 Kg 15/24'er Heavy Houbitz Nr 122 produced by Skoda Pilzen (On the barrel 1938 No:122, on the bed 1933 no: 121) for Republic of Turkey.
1500 Kg 15/24'er Heavy Houbitz Nr 122 produced by Skoda Pilzen (On the barrel 1938 No:122, on the bed 1933 no: 121) for Republic of Turkey.
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See how your Skoda howitzer looked like back in 1930s
Enjoy!
Enjoy!
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Great shot! Do you have more 1930s artillery pictures from Turkey?infantry wrote:See how your Skoda howitzer looked like back in 1930s
Enjoy!
Regards,
Nuyt