Turkish Artillery

Discussions on the final era of the Ottoman Empire, from the Young Turk Revolution of 1908 until the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923.
stevebecker
Member
Posts: 1290
Joined: 01 Jul 2006 03:04
Location: Australia

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by stevebecker » 14 Aug 2015 23:22

Tosun,

Sorry but it looks like it will not cross over, I will get him to try again. the request is on the 1914-18 Long long Trail site.

Cheers

S.B

stevebecker
Member
Posts: 1290
Joined: 01 Jul 2006 03:04
Location: Australia

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by stevebecker » 16 Aug 2015 00:46

Mates,

He said try this?

"Hi Steve,

Many thanks!

It's odd - I just tried the link, and it works perfect. Anyway - I suggest to do a google-search:

MINISTRY OF INFORMATION FIRST WORLD WAR OFFICIAL COLLECTION Q12864

That should lead directly there,

Again - thank you!"

So try that to see the gun?

I thought it maybe so type of Skoda possibly as the 15/24 cm Heavy Howitzer Skoda Pilzen 1933 model

Looks like the same gun?

Did they make the same type during the war?

Cheers

S.B

User avatar
YC Chen
Host - Allied sections
Posts: 836
Joined: 29 Sep 2009 13:35
Location: Nanking

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by YC Chen » 24 Aug 2015 08:06

Hello all,

I am currently reorganizing photos of military museums that I have visited or have photos taken for me. When I was going through the photos of the Military Museum, Istanbul(taken by a friend on a business trip using my camera in Oct. 2010) I made a stunning (re)discovery.

There are two 18pdr in the photos and I have just noticed that one of them have a new, totally different carriage. It immediately reminded me of the converted 18pdr posted by Nuyt in page 19 of this thread(diret link: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=270 ). After comparing the photos I think the carriages of the two guns are essentially the same. But the gun in Nuyt's photo has its breechblock replaced with a sliding one, while the gun in my photo still retains its original breechblock(I think).

Please see the photos. Hope this will give you some more food for thought.

YC Chen
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

CharlieC
Member
Posts: 154
Joined: 17 Jan 2010 05:47
Location: Australia

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by CharlieC » 27 Aug 2015 23:20

stevebecker wrote:Mates,


I thought it maybe so type of Skoda possibly as the 15/24 cm Heavy Howitzer Skoda Pilzen 1933 model

Looks like the same gun?

Did they make the same type during the war?

Cheers

S.B
Looks like the forum software did something bizarre to the link - http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205248117

I think the gun is a 15cm sFH 13 lang with the gun shield removed.

Regards,

Charlie

stevebecker
Member
Posts: 1290
Joined: 01 Jul 2006 03:04
Location: Australia

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by stevebecker » 03 Sep 2015 00:20

Mate,

Thanks yes that's right. I didn't notice the Gun shield was gone, not something you see on most artillery guns, which confused me.

I was looking for any guns that didn't have gun shields, when I should have been thinking outside the box.

That's again nice pick up.

S.B

Tosun Saral
Member
Posts: 3942
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 19:32
Location: Ankara/Turkey

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by Tosun Saral » 14 Oct 2015 16:03

1924 what type gun?
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

stevebecker
Member
Posts: 1290
Joined: 01 Jul 2006 03:04
Location: Australia

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by stevebecker » 14 Oct 2015 22:36

Mate,

They look like 105mm M 1913 How's.

I had thought they maybe Krupp 120mm How but 15cm How looks better.

S.B

CharlieC
Member
Posts: 154
Joined: 17 Jan 2010 05:47
Location: Australia

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by CharlieC » 15 Oct 2015 23:23

Calibre looks smaller than 12cm - unless 1920s Turkish soldiers had very large heads.

The guns look like 75mm Krupp M03 export guns (curved top on the gun shield, acorn shaped cover on the end of the receiver).
Most of these guns were supplied as "fussartillerie" without axle tree seats but the 1909 order and possibly the 1911 order did have axle tree seats.

Regards,

Charlie

User avatar
Ralph Lovett
Member
Posts: 101
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 02:15
Location: DC and GA USA

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by Ralph Lovett » 29 Oct 2015 20:35

Tosun Saral wrote:Staff Capt. Mustafa Kemal ( in civil, only a part of face can be seenbar)examining a French gun with other officers of various armies at St.Etienne Gun and Weaopn Factories in France during the Great Army manauvres of Picardie in Sep.28th 1910.
source: http://www.isteataturk.com

Mustafa Kemal the civilian on the right of the man with white hat.
In this photo of Mustafa Kemal, he appears to be looking at a French 70mm Saint Chamond Mountain Howitzer:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/70mm_St_ ... itzer.html

R/

Ralph Lovett
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

stevebecker
Member
Posts: 1290
Joined: 01 Jul 2006 03:04
Location: Australia

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by stevebecker » 02 Jan 2016 02:33

Mates,

In line with discussion of the German 60th Arty Bn;

shown March 1917 Allied reports 60th FAR (4x 150mm How & 4x 100mm How att 16th Div at 1st Gaza)

60th FA Bn

Commander: Apfel. The others are Schmude - Petri - Naumann - Hartung

1 Bty (2 guns) - 10,5 cm guns
2 Bty (4 guns) - 15 cm howitzers
3 Bty (2 guns) - 21 cm howitzers ("Mörsers")
4 Bty (2 guns) - 21 cm howitzers ("Mörsers")

I have seen no photos of the 21cm How in Palestine, while I have seen many of their use in France, have you any on record?

Do you have any records of their use in Palestine?

Cheers

S.B

User avatar
peeved
Member
Posts: 8813
Joined: 01 Jul 2007 07:15
Location: Finland

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by peeved » 08 Oct 2016 17:49

Hi,

Any thoughts on this mortar (?) with a Turkish looking soldier in the crowd from http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Foto-Ar ... SwImpXpLX2

Markus
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Tosun Saral
Member
Posts: 3942
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 19:32
Location: Ankara/Turkey

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by Tosun Saral » 14 Oct 2016 16:27

Before Balkan war.

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 15490
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 17:18
Location: Spain

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 26 Nov 2016 12:39

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this gun ??

Image from Ebay
Sturm78
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Tanzania
Member
Posts: 534
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 13:59
Location: Germany

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by Tanzania » 26 Nov 2016 15:35

Hi Sturm78,

I assume this was only a `test-question´ from an `old artillery expert´.

7,7 cm Feldkanone 96 n. A
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/7,7_cm_Feldkanone_96_n._A.

Cheers Holger
“Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. . . . All History was a
palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary” – G. ORWELL 1984

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 15490
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 17:18
Location: Spain

Re: Turkish Artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 26 Nov 2016 20:50

Holger wrote
assume this was only a `test-question´ from an `old artillery expert´.

7,7 cm Feldkanone 96 n. A
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/7,7_cm_Feldkanone_96_n._A.
Ummhhh....I do not think an 7.7cm FK96nA. The shield is different....
An 75mm Krupp M1903 gun maybe but I am not sure... :?

Sturm78

Return to “The end of the Ottoman Empire 1908-1923”