Mustafa Kemal and Enver Pasha had been friends?

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Cristiano de S.O Campos
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Mustafa Kemal and Enver Pasha had been friends?

Post by Cristiano de S.O Campos » 27 Mar 2007 01:35


Mustafa Kemal and Enver Pasha had been friends or rivals?



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Re: Mustafa Kemal and Enver Pasha had been friends?

Post by bilge kagan » 02 Apr 2007 20:04

hi cristiano,
actually they were member same political society (C.U.P). and they have same ideas. but has a absolute difference. M.Kemal was pure realistic . Enver pascha was native dreamer. on the other hand between M.Kemal and Enver Pascha has two military class. but when first person was major, second person was chief of commander of ottoman forces :D
M.Kemal always was opposite to enver pascha because he believes that enver's plans destroyed motherland. in fact he was right.
between M. Kemal and Enver Pascha always were secret fight.

finally a hictorical joke:
a day a friend asked to Enver : why do you M.Kemal promote to general? Enver said: i promote him to general he wants to be fieldmarschal.i promote him to fieldmarschal. he wants to be chief of commander. i promote him to chief of commander. he wants to be sultan :lol:

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Post by Mehmet Fatih » 03 Apr 2007 10:44

In fact, Mustafa Kemal always supported the idea of keeping the politics out of army. But Enver thought that if every single one of then Turkish officers believed in the ideas of C.U.P., the success would follow. Even the disaster in First Balkan War, didn't taught Enver a lesson. Mustafa Kemal left C.U.P. because of that reason. Enver made plans of assasinating him but his plans proved to be unsuccessful. He, then, tried to keep him of field command and make him pacifized. But he finally decided to give him a commanding duty in Gallipoli and that decision changed Turkish history forever.
There is an interesting fact about Enver-Kemal relations. When Enver wanted to make himself the commander in chief, he realized that he was not a Pasha. (Only a pasha could be the commander in chief. And Enver was only a Lt. Col.) It was Mustafa Kemal, who offered to the army promotion commitee to consider Enver's past services in Tripoli and Benghazi. After the consideration phase, Enver Bey became Enver Pasha. You know the rest of the story.
During the War of Independence, Mustafa Kemal still feared Enverists(They were known as Ittihatcis) in Ankara Government. They were the strongest opposition. They knew that Enver was preparing an army to enter Anatolia in case of the fall of Ankara. But after the Battle of Sakarya, the Enverists stopped criticizing Kemal's decisions. Even some Enverists became Kemalists. Enver saw that Kemal is about the save the Turkish fatherland. So he decided to keep out of his way and ran after his own dreams. He decided to start a rebellion in Central Asia. You know the rest of the story.

After the proclamation of the Turkish Republic in 1923, Enverists were still the strongest faction opposing Kemal's new order. But in 1926, the so called "Izmir Plot" gave Mustafa Kemal the chance to get rid of the remnants of Enverists. Some of the important figures were executed as conspirators and some were imprisoned. Rest of them decided to remain silent and get used to the new republic. That was the end of C.U.P.
Because of that, some historians say that the Turkish Republic was founded in 1926, not in 1923.


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