Ottoman Riflemen

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Ottoman Riflemen

Post by Peter H » 08 Apr 2007 12:02

In 1912 each division had a Rifle battalion attached,and each Corps had its own Rifle regiment.

Called Nisanci.

They were phased out in the reforms of 1914 as they didn't perform well in "their doctrinal role of reconnaissance and screening" during the Balkan War.

What was the lineage of these units?


From: http://www.gerty.ncl.ac.uk/

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April 1909--Return of the Chasseurs after Victory

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Post by Tosun Saral » 08 Apr 2007 12:18

Nisanci(nischanci) means sharpshooter.

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Post by Peter H » 08 Apr 2007 12:48

Thanks.

Equivalent to the German Jägers or French Chasseurs.


From: http://www.diggerhistory2.info/graveyar ... forms2.htm

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Light Infantry Sgt (Çavus). Notice the differences on the insignia worn by NCOs of the Line & Light Infantry units

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Post by Tosun Saral » 08 Apr 2007 13:09

Thats right. after German influence to Turkish army The Nisanci was named "Avci"(Hunter) as in German "Jaeger". Jaeger is hunter.

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Post by Mait » 10 Apr 2007 07:03

Sorry, I don´t quite understand - were these battallions disbanded or were they reformed into Jäger battallions during 1914 military reforms?

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Post by Peter H » 10 Apr 2007 10:08

Hi,

All disbanded in 1914.Hence Turkey had no light infantry units in WW1.

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Post by emir pasha » 10 Apr 2007 17:51

Their abolition was more due to political reasons than military ones. The 31 March 1909 reactionary uprising did start among Avcı battalions stationed in Istanbul. As they were the main counter insurgency units for more than 30 years, most of the disillusioned (therefore with a strong tendency towards any kind of political extremism) soldiers were concentrated among Avcı battalions. In a typical pragmatic approach, Enver Pasha used the Balkan catastrophy and the pretext of the art of war to get rid of those dangerous soldiers, especially officers.

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