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Steel helmets

Post by Peter H » 03 Jul 2007 07:28

I'm trying to lock up various discussions here,from elsewhere.

Photos from Helmets of the First World War,by ,Michael Haselgrove,Branislav Radovic.

German mounted officer in 1918 with the Model 1918 full visor helmet

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Post by Peter H » 03 Jul 2007 07:34

'The Model 1918(visorless) helmet--5400 were produced by Germany for the Turkish government,but were never delivered.Used extensively by Freikorps units during the Sparticist uprising in Germany in 1919".

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Post by Peter H » 03 Jul 2007 07:37

German/Austrian Stahlhelms also in use postwar?
Afghanistan also imported these models.


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Post by Peter H » 03 Jul 2007 07:40

Full visor hemet still worn by Stormtroops in War of Independence

From Corbis 1921

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Post by Peter H » 03 Jul 2007 07:42

Photo courtesy of Bill Woerlee.

Australian LH photo of captured Bergmann LMG 15,German stahlhelm and pistols in Palestine.

Helmet in Turkish or German service?

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Post by Peter H » 03 Jul 2007 08:44

Photos from Helmets of the First World Warby Michael Haselgrove,Branislav Radovic


Full visor M1918 Model Helmet,as worn by some Turkish troops.20,000 were made?
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Post by Peter H » 03 Jul 2007 08:46

The Visorless Model1918--never delivered to Turkey.
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Post by Peter H » 03 Jul 2007 09:06

According to Chavusch here:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=20066
Finally 3 type helmets used in Ottoman battlefields in WWI ,

1-M16 type German-Austrian helmets , some of them strong plated < extra protection for MG crews and snipers< check it ourt Ankara Anafartalar Mehmetcik statue and Mudanya peace talks honor guards pictures.>

2- Same helmets with cut off sun visor types< only made 5800 piece > those were made by Germans as proto type for better using the gas masks! lately passed to Ottomans[sic]

3- Special designed Damas helmets[full visor] for Ottoman used only for lightwieght reasons< many captured after surrounded Ottoman forces in todays Syria and sold by British to film industries and used by films as some Japanese helmets in WWII pacific theatre movies.

Re Visorless helmets:

My source states 5,400 made.However they never reached Turkey.These helmets were actually available from around 1916/17 but the Turks disliked its design and refused to take them.Stocks held in Germany were then issued to the Freikorps in 1919.

Visorless fakes sometimes appear on Ebay.Cut off the visor and hey presto.The Norwegens also acquired stocks of German M16 helmets after 1945 and cut off the visors "in order to make them look different".Sometimes these appear as Turkish helmets as well.


Damas(Full Visor] helmets

Something like 56,000 were made according to one source.Some were actually produced in Turkey--these lacked the rolled edge of the German version.However even this low number meant that most likely only one in 50 Turkish soldiers ever wore a helmet.

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