Ottoman 36 and 45 Infantry Divisions

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tj rogerson
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Ottoman 36 and 45 Infantry Divisions

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Post by tj rogerson » 07 Aug 2007, 15:36

Back as promised with my standard question about the Ottomans.

Am looking for a list of commaders for the Ottoman 36th Infantry Division and the Ottman 45th Infantry Division, Not much beyond Kazim Ozalp (36) and Ismail Hakki (45). As usual, any assistance appreciated.
Thanks,
TJ

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Post by stevebecker » 08 Aug 2007, 06:00

Mate,

I have these commanders for the 36th Div [;

LtCol Kazim Bey
LtCol Cavit Bey
Col Haci Hamdi Bey

As for the 45th Div;

LtCol Ahmet Tevfik Bey
LtCol Süleyman Bey
LtCol Ali Necip Bey
LtCol Ismail Hakki Bey
LtCol Bekir Sami Bey

When these commanders exersised that command I am unsure.

S.B


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Post by Tosun Saral » 08 Aug 2007, 10:56

Ismet Gorgulu " On Yıllık Harbin Kadrosu" (Personal of the Ten Years Long War)
36th Inf. Div.:

The div. fought the battles of Tortum-Azap-Erzurum at the wing of the front during April 1915- Feb.16th 1916 and at Çoruh-Kaledere-Kop-Mamahatun (Tercan) battles in April-July 1916 and at the Winter battles 1916-17
The Mobile Gendarmery Division of Van commanded by Lt. Col. Kazım (Gen. of the Army Özalp) was demolished in Jun.26th 1915. Lt. Col. Kazım Bey attended to command the 36th.

Hakkı Fazıl Bey commander of (?) regt. KIA in June 1916

During the Regional Battles in 1917 Kazım Bey was promoted to Col.

During the movement of the 3rd Army towards Tirtebolu-Kemah-Kigi-Muş-Bitlis- in Feb.12 1918 Col. Kazım Bey commanded the 37th div.
Lt. Col. Cavit Bey, the COS of 1st Caucasus AC was made commander of 36th until Feb. 20th.
Later Col. Hacı Hamdi (Col. Pirselim or Pirselimoğlu) commanded the div. On Feb.13th 1918 Erzincan was taken over Armenians by the units of 36th and West Dersim Detachment.

The 36th was attached to the order of 6th AC onJuly 1918. They fought the battles along Caspian Sea.





Gen. of the Army Kazım Özalp (Köprülü, former Turkish city in Serbia- Ankara 1968)
Soldier and statesman
Army serial Nr: P(Inf)-1318(1902)-29 (29th of his class)
Maj. Gen.:1921
Lt. Gen.1922
Gen.:1926
Retired: July 6th 1927.
During the years 1924-1935 he was the President of Turkish Grand Parliament.

TS's Nota: On the same page 113 one can see a 36th Kirkuk (Kerkük) Division commanded by Col. Yusuf Ziya (Şamlı), later by Col. İshak.

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Post by Tosun Saral » 08 Aug 2007, 11:37

from İsmet Görgülü
"Müntefik Tümen" the div with extra units commanded by Lt. Col. Ahmet Tevfik during June 15th 1915 fights, at Nasiriye on July 24th 1915, at 1st kutülamare in Sept.28th 1915.
Units:
Maj. Sadık Bey Group commander of right wing at Kalatunnecim the (104th Regt)
Capt. Halit (Col. Akmansü) left shore group commander
Maj. Hamdi group commander of Seyit Naviye
Acumi Sadun Pasha a Libyan of Senusi Tribe commander of tribal forces
Maj. Akif ( Maj. Gen Erdemgil) commander of Fırat detachment
Army serial number: Sv.(Cav.)-1312(1896)-46
Maj. Gen. 1927
Retired:Jan.6th 1936

The Müntefik Tümen was was renamed as 45th Div. whe the divison came to Iraq on Oct. 11st 1915
The 45th fought Selpanpak battle Nov.21-26 1915, Selabiha (Delabiha (?)) on Nov.30th 1915, Kütulamare on Dec. 10-13 1915 under commande of Maj. Halil Rıfat. Staff officer of the Div. Mahmut Hamdi KIA at Selabiha. Capt. Enver was made staff officer.

- Maj. Nazmi (Lt. Gen. Solok) commander of 3rd Regt.
Army Serial Nr:Top (Art.)-1314(1898)-44
Maj. Gen.:1924
Lt. Gen.:1930
Retired:Oct. 2nd 1939
- Lt. Col. Enver Bey commanded the 141st Inf. Regt.
- Lt. Col. Muhtar commanded the 142nd Inf. Regt.(KIA Dec. 22 1915)

During the battles Jan. 1916-April 1916
Lt. Col. Süleyman (Mesrur)
Lt. Col. Ali Necip He begun his duty at Jan. 13th 1916.
Lt. Col. Ismail Hakkı Bey. He was kicked by a horse and wounded 0n Feb 24/25 1917. His division was given to the command of Col Bekir Sami Bey.
The 45th Div. demolished on March 1917

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Post by tj rogerson » 08 Aug 2007, 15:08

Thanks fellas. Appreciate the help.
Now only one to go.

TJ

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