I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

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I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 18 Jul 2008 19:33

I grew up in a military family. All my uncles and close relatives were officers. They were veterans of WW1 and Turkish War of Independance (1919-22)

After graduating from University I served 2 years (1970-71) in Turkish army as Signal Lt. I served at Army Signal Training Division, 1st Wire Regiment, 1st Wire Battalion, 1st Wire Company in Ankara. I studied economics in the University but I was made a signalier by the military. As I was made officer I feld my self as Napoleon or Enver Pasha the commander in chief of Ottoman Turkish Armies during WW1. But I was just a Lt.

Insigma of the Turkish Signal units.

Signal Lt. İsmail Tosun Saral
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 18 Jul 2008 19:56

Signal units have very old and long tradtion in Turkish army. During Ottoman period there were "Posta Tatarları" in the army. They were all Crimean Tartars on horse back. They were skilled postman.
A posta tatari on horseback
Kavas (housekeeper after 1826), Posta Tatarı, Vezir Tatarı ( privat postman of a vezier), Vezir İç Oğlan Çavuşu
(sergeant of the houseboys serving a vezier)
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 18 Jul 2008 20:03

Signal units during WW1
Signal unit at Suvla
Signal unit at Intepe (Kumkale) on Asian side
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 18 Jul 2008 20:14

During my service for faterland in the army Major General Fethi Tansi was Chief Signal officer of the Turkish Ground Forces.
Army Serial Number : Muh. (Signal) 1936-11
Brigadier : 1966, Major General: 1970
Retired: 14.7.1973

Brigadier General E.Macit Akman was the commander of Army Signal School and Training Centre.
Army Serial Number:Mu.(Signal) 1942-12
Brigadier:1967, Maj. Gen.:1971
Retired: 30.8.1975 (After retirement he became the general Director pof Turkish State Radio and TV Orhanization. TRT)
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 18 Jul 2008 20:31

My battalion Commander Signal Lt. Col. (Col.R) İbrahim Göksel
My Company Commander Signal Captain Hilmi Yeniceri (Col. R)
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 18 Jul 2008 20:47

Signal reserve Lt. Erkan Ayral
My dear and good old friend. After Graduating from the High School of Galatasaray in Istanbul he came to study World Trade (Welthandel) in Vienna. I met him first on Dec. 14th 1961 at the pension of Frau Radovan. We stayed at the same pansion and studied together in the same Hochschule Für Welthandel. By a luck we were soldiers together at the same company. He had 6 months seniority. He was my superior.

He is living now in Bodrum on Mediterranean Sea. He is a deep sea diver, builder of deep sea subs.

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:WH ... cd=2&gl=uk
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 18 Jul 2008 21:07

Signal Oficer Cadet Nr. 4383 Ismail Tosun Saral
Infantry Rifle M 1 serial Nr.: 5097220
Bayonet Serial Nr.:3059975
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Annelie » 18 Jul 2008 22:14

Thankyou for sharing, interesting.

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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by stevebecker » 19 Jul 2008 01:01

Tosun,

I was wondering about a question asked somewhere else about what language was spoken in signal units during the Otoman peroid.

There was some talk about German or French being spoken over the radio's instead of Turkish.

How well trainned were the radio operators and Signal officers during WWI.

Cheers

S.B

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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 19 Jul 2008 09:07

In modern terms the first signal company in Ottoman Army was established im 1888 at the Selimiye Army Barracks under the name "Telgraf Bölüğü" the Telegram Company after a visit of Graham Bell to Sultan Hamid II who intruduced telegram to Ottoman Sultan. At that days pigeons and signal latterns were also in use.

During WW1 at every HQ there was a Turkish staff officer who could speak fluent german. eg Liman Pasha had Lt. Col Kazim (Gen Dirik) at Gallipoli, Lt. Col. Cemil (Gen. Conk) Hüseyin Hüsnü Emir (Gen. Erkilet) were all educated in germany. They immediately translated the orders into Turkish. The poor signal soldier knew only Turkish. He could send the massage even blind-folded by telegram or telephone.

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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 19 Jul 2008 09:21

Some of the men of 103th Signal Cadet Company 9th Team whom I have contacts.
4351 Arda Şaylan, 4353 Gökhan Günalp, 4363 Turhan Menalioğlu,
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 19 Jul 2008 09:25

4363 Hüseyin Ersoy, 4365 Fahri Demirelli, 4366 Doğan Alnar
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 19 Jul 2008 09:33

4367 Turhan Turgut, 4369 Uğur Tuncer, 4370 Ertürk Eras
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 19 Jul 2008 09:39

4380 Necati Ersin, 4386 Atilla İlter
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Re: I was a Turkish Signal Oficer

Post by Tosun Saral » 19 Jul 2008 09:44

We gathered 33 years later with our wifes in Ankara
sitting: Ugur Tuncer, Arda Şaylan, Dr. Jur. Dogan Alnar
Standing: Hüseyin Ersoy, Turhan Turgut, Fahri Demirelli, Tosun Saral shaking hands with Dr. Jur. Doğan Alnar, Gökhan Günalp
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