Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Post by patates » 19 Jan 2013 13:25

I think sergeant majors didn't used swords on the battlefield.Also in the plate 17 it shows machine gunners collars are completely dark green but plate 19A it shows machine gunners collars have a dark green square.Can you explain these?

Edit:I realised it can be bayonet scabbard.

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Post by nic101 » 19 Jan 2013 23:19

Dear All

I've got pictures of Ottoman troops after the 1839 reforms wearing backpacks. Does anyone know if backpacks were worn by the New Army before the 1839 reforms?

Another quick question, I can't be looking through this thread carefully enough but what were the colours of the trousers and shoes circa 1828 to 1832?

Many thnaks

Nick

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Post by ukturkcollector » 20 Jan 2013 01:50

nic101 wrote:Dear All

I've got pictures of Ottoman troops after the 1839 reforms wearing backpacks. Does anyone know if backpacks were worn by the New Army before the 1839 reforms?

Another quick question, I can't be looking through this thread carefully enough but what were the colours of the trousers and shoes circa 1828 to 1832?

Many thnaks

Nick
This shoe in the Australian war Memorial Collection is from WW1. However, in terms of design it is almost identical to footwear worm from the 1820s. This picture below is typically what is used.

In terms a full costumes:

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Post by patates » 20 Jan 2013 20:32

There is a problem on the cavalry cuff rank insignas.A grey band for corporal for all units.For cavalry cuff insignas are all grey.Doesn't that mean cavalry corporals and sergeants have smae insigna?

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Post by Cristiano de S.O Campos » 30 Jan 2013 02:18

Hi Patates, the main question is because two divergent opinions about cuff insignia, some people believe cuff insignia used only gendarmerie and other believe used all army

cuff insignia..

corporal 1 broad band,
sergeant 1 broad band and one narrow band,
assistant sergeant-major two broad band
and sergeant major three broad band.

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Post by patates » 30 Jan 2013 10:08

I have this photo showing both insignia used by 2 medics:

Also corporal insignia:

Also i think cuff insignia for army only used in east(syria,palestine,...) and Gallipoli
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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Post by jwsleser » 30 Jan 2013 21:35

patates

The first picture is new to me. I have not seen it before. A very interesting picture.

I have seen the second picture. Note the individual kneeling on the left with the cuff insignia also appears to be wearing shoulder boards.

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Post by patates » 31 Jan 2013 11:46

Both of them are from us library congress

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