Heavt Artillery Obus/How Batteries

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Heavt Artillery Obus/How Batteries

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Post by stevebecker » 22 Mar 2014, 01:51

Mates,

I was going throw my lists of Heavy Batteries and wanted to confirm their numbers and names?

1st 105 mm Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries with 4 obüs) (1st Corps)
2nd 105 mm Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries with 4 obüs) (2nd Corps)
3rd 105 mm Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries with 4 obüs) (3rd Corps)
4th 105 mm Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries with 4 obüs) (4th Corps)
5th 105 mm Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries with 4 obüs) (5th Corps)
6th 105 mm Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries with 4 obüs) (6th Corps)


2nd Obüs/How Bty (2x 15cm Krupp K16 field guns) att 3 Div (22th Corps) 8-16 to 57 Div (8th Corps) 3-18 captured near Nablus 21-9-18 Nablus Annie & Nablus Nancy (4th Army)

3rd Obüs/How Bty (2x 15cm Krupp K16 field guns) 1x Jericho Jame 4-17 captured 19-9-18 & Nimrim Nelly att 48 Div (20th Corps) (4th Army)

Can you give what other Heavy Batteries were formed and where they were used?

Cheers

S.B

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Post by Tosun Saral » 25 Mar 2014, 12:04

Hüseyin Hüsnü Emir Erkilet "Yıldırım" p.329 ecl 3
General men and material power of Sinai front in May 1917 (the u/m figures are only for artillery)

20th AC:
16th div: 1st Btt of 16th Artt.Rgt. and 2nd battery of 6th Artt.Rgt., a 12 cm commen fire obüs battery, a strong (kudretli) mountain battery,

54th Div: 2nd battalion of 1st field artillery Rgt, 2nd battalion of 2nd Artillery Rgt., commen mountain battery of 14th Artillery Rgt., heavty artillery HQs with heavy material, 113nd Bomb Battery


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Post by Tosun Saral » 25 Mar 2014, 12:14

Hüseyin Hüsnü Emir Erkilet "Yıldırım" p.348 encl:19
7th Army on Oct 1st 1917
Around Halep: Heavry batteries no 11 and 12

19th Div: 25th field artillery Rgt moved from Halep to the front

20th div.: 2nd Battalion of Field arttilery Rgt still in İstanbul., 1st battalion of Field artillery Rgt near Halep,

59 Div.: 59th Artillery Rgt still in Aydin near İzmir

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Post by Tosun Saral » 25 Mar 2014, 12:23

Hüseyin Hüsnü Emir Erkilet "Yıldırım" p.350 enc: 20
general artillery power of 8th A on 1.10.1917

at HQ: 4 gun
16th div total 32
26th: total 34
54: 53
24:8
Total of 20th AC: 127

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Re: Heavt Artillery Obus/How Batteries

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Post by stevebecker » 26 Mar 2014, 01:30

Tosun my friend

Thank you for these details.

Can I collate what you give above;

The 7th Army (under Fevzi Pasa) in Oct 1917 added these two Heavy Artillery formations

11th 105 mm Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries with 4 obüs) 10-17
12th 105 mm Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries with 4 obüs) 10-17

But I am unsure what unit this is?

a 12 cm commen fire obüs battery

heavty artillery HQs with heavy material, 113nd Bomb Battery

Are there any details on these units?

also was there Heavy units in between the 6th to 11th 105 mm Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries with 4 obüs)

I mean was there a 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th 105 mm Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries with 4 obüs) and where did they serve?

Also was there a 1st Obüs/How Bty (2x 15cm Krupp K16 field guns)

I was thinking they may have served in the Caucasus or Romania/Bulgeria Fronts

Many thanks as always.

S.B

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Post by stevebecker » 02 Mar 2016, 02:34

Mates,

Here are some from British reports;

shown Jan 1918 Allied reports

72nd Heavy How Bn (11Bty 256Bty or 11Bty 12Bty (4x150mm & 2x105mm)
73rd Heavy How Bn (12Bty 13Bty or 13Bty 14Bty (8x 150mm)
74th Heavy How Bn (14Bty 15Bty or 15Bty 257Bty (8x 150mm)
45th Heavy How Bn (1Bty 7Bty 10Bty (8x 150mm 4x 105mm)

3rd Heavy How Bty (3x 150mm)
7th Heavy How Bty (4x 150mm)
41st Heavy How Bty (4x 105mm)
44th Heavy How Bty (4x105mm)
4Bty/51st How Bn (4x 105mm)
230th Heavy How Bty (2x 105mm)
257th Heavy How Bty (4x 150mm) -

shown Mar 1918 Allied reports
8th Heavy How Bty (4x 150mm How)

These were in the Corps with the 7th and 8th Army in Palestine.

So far I can't find them in Turkish records, but as these names were given by Turkish prisoners and other sources they must be correct?

just to add these are the field batteries in there records

shown Mar 1918 Allied reports
2Bn/1st FAR (8x 75mm Mountain guns) 1st FAR (12x 75mm guns) 5Bty/1st FAR (4x 105mm How)
2Bn/2nd FAR (8x 75mm)
1Bn&2Bn/5th FAR (14x 75mm)
1Bn/6th FAR (8x 75mm)
1Bn/7th FAR (8x 75mm) 2Bn/7th FAR (8x 75mm)
2Bn/8th FAR (8x 75mm)
1Bn/9th FAR (8x 75mm) 2Bn/9th FAR (8x 75mm)
11th FAR (8x 75mm 8x 75mm Mountain)
3Bn/12th FAR (8x 75mm)
2Bn/13th FAR (8x 75mm) 2Bn/13th FAR (3x 75mm)
1Bn/14th FAR (5x 75mm)
1Bn&2Bn/16th FAR (9x 75mm + 4x 75mm Mountain)
19th FAR (16x 75mm)
20th FAR (24x 105mm or 8x 75mm 8x 75mm Mountain 4x 105mm How)
1Bn/23rd FAR (8x 75mm) 4Bty/23rd FAR (4x 105mm How)
2Bn/25th FAR (8x 75mm)
1Bn& 2Bn/26th FAR (12x 75mm)
5Bty/27th FAR (4x 75mm Mountain)
1Bn/30th FAR (8x 75mm)
2Bn/32nd FAR (8x 75mm)
1Bn/39th FAR (7x 75mm)
2Bn/43rd FAR (2x 75mm)
(7Bty & 4Bty 5Bty/44th FAR (4x 75mm Mountain 8x 105mm How)
47th FAR (12x 75mm)
1Bn&2Bn/48th FAR (16x 75mm)
1Bn/50th FAR (8x 75mm)
53rd FAR (16x 75mm)
1Bn/54th FAR (8x 75mm) 2Bn/54th FAR (8x 75mm)
3rd Cav Div (4x 75mm 2x 75mm Mountain)

You will notice that some FAR have Heavy How's Batteries with them.

Cheers

S.B

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