Mates,
Check these men out?
Hasan Basri Efendi Observer Airforce to 12th Sqn 6-16 to 2nd Sqn 1917 shown OC Euph.Müf 1-18 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 Mesopotamia shown with Co 9-17 reported Rumpler C1 (RK1) shot down a British plane with Cemal (P) around the Euphrates 22-3-18 (1 victory) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Basri Efendi (Bilgin) Pilot Airforce 15th Sqn 1918 shown 1st Sqn (1920) Lt PoW 20-10-18 by Bulgarians reported crashed on recce near Kosukavak Bulgaria to War of Independance
Hasan Basri Efendi (Edirne) Pilot Airforce 7th Sqn 6-18 to 16th Sqn 7-18 Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 Caucasian front (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Basri Efendi (Uzunköprü) Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Basri Efendi (Yozgat) Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Only one in these five is not shown in Ole Nikoljsen, is he one of the four other men or is he just missed?
Two men I have not found Sqn/Companies for as yet, is he one of the other men?
Most have family names given after 1934 by Ataturk, but one man, is he also one of these others?
Just some problems when dealing with Ottoman name
Have fun
S.B
Ottoman Air units
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Re: Ottoman Air units
Mates,
These are some of those I have not found a Sqn/Company for as yet, some maybe amoung those already mentioned but as yet I have not made the conection, maybe you will have better luck.
Observers
Abdullah Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Abdullah Efendi (Egyptian) Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Bahattin Bayram Efendi Observer Airforce Capt DoW 25-7-22 (1892 died 25-7-22) Buried at Afyon Hava Sehidligi 1914-2069 to War of Independance reported shot down in a Bregue XIV with Cemal (P) by Greek pilot Sgt Christoforos Stavropoulos in Spad 7 from Moire D (Sqn) shot down a Breguet 14 in the north of Afyon Karahissar
Ahmet Suayip Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ali Iskander Efendi Observer Airforce Capt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ali Riza Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Burhanettin Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Emin Mahir Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Fahrettin Naci Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
H. Abdülkadir Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Esat Efendi observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Sabri Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ibrahim Hakki Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ihsan Efendi Observer Airforce Sgt/WO Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ihsan Efendi (Cihangir) Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ismail Rahmi Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Kemalettin Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
M. Sabri Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 12-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
M. Sadi Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 12-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Cemal Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Halit Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Hayri Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Mümin Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Sami Efendi (Edirne) Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Sükrü Efendi Observer Airforce Capt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Murat Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Kazim Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Selahattin Efendi Observer Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Nüzhet Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Cemal Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Tayyar Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 12-14 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ragip Efendi Observer Airforce Sgt/WO Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Refik Efendi Observer Airforce Sgt/WO Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sabri Sami Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sadi Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sadik Efendi Observer Airforce Lt - Capt Cav KIA 27-2-14 accident Trained Yesilköy 1913 reported killed in accident with Capt Fethi before war near Genesareth 27-2-14 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Salik Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sami Efendi Observer Airforce Lt KIA 20-4-15 or DoA 3-5-15 accident Trained Yesilköy 5-15 shown killed when Deperdussin "Osmanli" was shot down by local troops and crashed with Capt Fevzi (P) near Belgrad forests north of Istanbul (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Selahattin Adli Efendi Observer Airforce Capt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Zekeriya Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Zühtü Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Pilots
Abdurrahman Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Ali Efendi (Rodos) Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Cemal Efendi Pilot Airforce NCO - officer cadet DoW 25-7-22 (from Turgutlu) - War of Independence reported shot down in a Bregue XIV (Breguet 14) with Bahattin (O) by Greek pilot Sgt Christoforos Stavropoulos in Spad 7 from Moire D (Sqn) north of Afyon Karahissar
Ahmet Cemalettin Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Hamdi Efendi pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Nuri Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Nuri Efendi (Istanbul) Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Arslan Cafur Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Burhanettin Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemal Sami Efendi pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemil Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt Trained Germany 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Enver Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Esref Efendi Pilot Airforce Mech post war Maltepe incident War of Independance
Ethem Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt KIA 2-10-20 accident? 1914-1920 possibly killed in accident near Konya War of Inderpendance
Ferit Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Halit Osmanoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Basri Efendi (Uzunköprü) Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Basri Efendi (Yozgat) Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Rifat Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hüseyin Mehmetoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hüseyin Yakup Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hüsmen Tevfik Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ibrahim Ethem Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ibrahim Fethi Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ilyas Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt 302 303 305 Jasta's merged and deployed under the command Sept 1918 at Dera
Ismail Efendi (Grözgen) Pilot Airforce
Ismail Sefik Efendi Pilot Airforce unknown
Kadri Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Kemalettin Nazimoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Ahmet Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Bezmi Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Hayri Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Nurettin Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Ziya Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt Trained Germany 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mevlut Recep Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mithat Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt Arty trained in France licence Balkan War 1912 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Murat Ibrahimoglu Efendi pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Fikri Efendi Pilot Airforce Cpl Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Kazim Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Kazim Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Mazlum Rifat Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Selahattin Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Tevfik Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Nuri Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt to Capt KIA 11-3-14 accident one of first pilots licence 912 1912 Trained in France before war drowned killed in accident crashed in a Deperdussin B near Yaffa into the Mediterranean Sea off Jaffa shortly after take-off Ismail Hahki Bey survived (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Efendi Pilot Airforce Cpl Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Tayyar Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Vecihi Alioglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 post war Maltepe incident War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Refik Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt one of first pilots licence 911 1912 Trained in France (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Remzi Abdullahoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ridvan Besimoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sabri or Sabra Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt tranined in UK 1912 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sabri Siretoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sadi Resit Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Saffet Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt tranined in UK 1912 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Savmi Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Training Yesilköy 10-14 reported accident crashed in a Nieuport Hydroavion "Mehmut Sevket Pasa" in the Sea of Marmara near Sarköy 10-14 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Tevfik Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Yusuf Kemal Efendi Pilot Airforce Cpl Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
I give these names freely so all may read and understand those who gave up there youth for their countries no matter who that was.
My poor understanding of an old Egyptian saying said something like, "by naming these men gains them some form of imortallity"
Cheers
S.B
These are some of those I have not found a Sqn/Company for as yet, some maybe amoung those already mentioned but as yet I have not made the conection, maybe you will have better luck.
Observers
Abdullah Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Abdullah Efendi (Egyptian) Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Bahattin Bayram Efendi Observer Airforce Capt DoW 25-7-22 (1892 died 25-7-22) Buried at Afyon Hava Sehidligi 1914-2069 to War of Independance reported shot down in a Bregue XIV with Cemal (P) by Greek pilot Sgt Christoforos Stavropoulos in Spad 7 from Moire D (Sqn) shot down a Breguet 14 in the north of Afyon Karahissar
Ahmet Suayip Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ali Iskander Efendi Observer Airforce Capt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ali Riza Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Burhanettin Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Emin Mahir Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Fahrettin Naci Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
H. Abdülkadir Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Esat Efendi observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Sabri Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ibrahim Hakki Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ihsan Efendi Observer Airforce Sgt/WO Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ihsan Efendi (Cihangir) Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ismail Rahmi Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Kemalettin Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
M. Sabri Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 12-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
M. Sadi Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 12-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Cemal Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Halit Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Hayri Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Mümin Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Sami Efendi (Edirne) Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Sükrü Efendi Observer Airforce Capt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Murat Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Kazim Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Selahattin Efendi Observer Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Nüzhet Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Cemal Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Tayyar Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 12-14 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ragip Efendi Observer Airforce Sgt/WO Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Refik Efendi Observer Airforce Sgt/WO Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sabri Sami Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sadi Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sadik Efendi Observer Airforce Lt - Capt Cav KIA 27-2-14 accident Trained Yesilköy 1913 reported killed in accident with Capt Fethi before war near Genesareth 27-2-14 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Salik Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sami Efendi Observer Airforce Lt KIA 20-4-15 or DoA 3-5-15 accident Trained Yesilköy 5-15 shown killed when Deperdussin "Osmanli" was shot down by local troops and crashed with Capt Fevzi (P) near Belgrad forests north of Istanbul (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Selahattin Adli Efendi Observer Airforce Capt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Zekeriya Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Zühtü Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Pilots
Abdurrahman Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Ali Efendi (Rodos) Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Cemal Efendi Pilot Airforce NCO - officer cadet DoW 25-7-22 (from Turgutlu) - War of Independence reported shot down in a Bregue XIV (Breguet 14) with Bahattin (O) by Greek pilot Sgt Christoforos Stavropoulos in Spad 7 from Moire D (Sqn) north of Afyon Karahissar
Ahmet Cemalettin Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Hamdi Efendi pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Nuri Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Nuri Efendi (Istanbul) Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Arslan Cafur Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Burhanettin Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemal Sami Efendi pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemil Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt Trained Germany 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Enver Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Esref Efendi Pilot Airforce Mech post war Maltepe incident War of Independance
Ethem Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt KIA 2-10-20 accident? 1914-1920 possibly killed in accident near Konya War of Inderpendance
Ferit Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Halit Osmanoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Basri Efendi (Uzunköprü) Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Basri Efendi (Yozgat) Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Rifat Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hüseyin Mehmetoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hüseyin Yakup Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hüsmen Tevfik Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ibrahim Ethem Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ibrahim Fethi Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ilyas Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt 302 303 305 Jasta's merged and deployed under the command Sept 1918 at Dera
Ismail Efendi (Grözgen) Pilot Airforce
Ismail Sefik Efendi Pilot Airforce unknown
Kadri Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Kemalettin Nazimoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Ahmet Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Bezmi Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Hayri Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Nurettin Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Ziya Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt Trained Germany 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mevlut Recep Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mithat Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt Arty trained in France licence Balkan War 1912 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Murat Ibrahimoglu Efendi pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Fikri Efendi Pilot Airforce Cpl Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Kazim Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Kazim Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Mazlum Rifat Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Selahattin Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Germany 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mustafa Tevfik Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Nuri Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt to Capt KIA 11-3-14 accident one of first pilots licence 912 1912 Trained in France before war drowned killed in accident crashed in a Deperdussin B near Yaffa into the Mediterranean Sea off Jaffa shortly after take-off Ismail Hahki Bey survived (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Efendi Pilot Airforce Cpl Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Tayyar Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Vecihi Alioglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 post war Maltepe incident War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Refik Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt one of first pilots licence 911 1912 Trained in France (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Remzi Abdullahoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ridvan Besimoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sabri or Sabra Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt tranined in UK 1912 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sabri Siretoglu Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sadi Resit Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Saffet Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt tranined in UK 1912 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Savmi Efendi Pilot Airforce Capt Naval Training Yesilköy 10-14 reported accident crashed in a Nieuport Hydroavion "Mehmut Sevket Pasa" in the Sea of Marmara near Sarköy 10-14 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Tevfik Efendi Pilot Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Yusuf Kemal Efendi Pilot Airforce Cpl Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
I give these names freely so all may read and understand those who gave up there youth for their countries no matter who that was.
My poor understanding of an old Egyptian saying said something like, "by naming these men gains them some form of imortallity"
Cheers
S.B
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Re: Ottoman Air units
Mayes,
I notice many Germans also fall into this gap with no units?
Beguelin Hans-Nikolaus Gaston Konstantin von Capt technical Airforce att Jasta 300 - Yildirim ordularinda uçak birliklerinde teknik komutan (Technical commander in aircraft units) 1917-18 (born 1897 at Oppeln ) from 3rd Hannoverian Inf Regt Nr 79 to Capt 10-16 to Turkey with Fleischfresser commanded retreat from Dera 9-18 reported MIA possibly PoW later WWII Luftwaffe Oberstleutnant in Russia
Bestaenier Lt Pilot Airforce de Pasa birliklerinde Filistin ve Irak'ta avci uçak pilotu (in Palestine and Iraq in 1918) Mesopotamia 1918- Mesopotamia (not identifed)?
Beyer (possibly Bayer Fritz) Lt (Capt) Airforce Jasta 300 (Filistin'de 300. Uçus filosunda (in Palestine) - Feldflieger-Truppe 1916- (born at Gößnitz ? )
Birckner Lt Observer airforce att Ottoman Forces 1913 1913- two pilots and one observer who served with the Ottoman Army in 1912-13 during the Balkan War 1913
Bodenschatz Karl-Heinrich Capt staff Airforce (unit unknown) 1916-18 (1890 at Rehau died 1979) from 8th Bavarian Regt to FFA 3b 1916 shown Ottoman War Medal RTG to Jasta 2 to adjt (OzBv) to Manfred von Richthofen JG 1 1918 later WWII Göring's staff & Gen Luftwaffe liaison officer between Hitler’s headquarters WIA 20-7-44 in plot to kill Hitler wrote "(author of Jagd in Flanderns Himmel)" shown with Ottoman War medal
Bömer Capt Observer Airforce 1915-18 shown Bleriot IX "Ertugrul" with Capt Cemal (P) flown over Cardenelles 1-15
Bortsek Capt Airforce representative from the Benz factories 1916- sent to set up engine factory instead set up a maintence factory for engines (not identified)
Erblich Heinz Civil Pilot Airforce 2-15 Tayyare Boluk 1915- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Eschwege Rudolf von Lt Pilot Airforce shown FA 30 Bulgarian-German Flying Corps 1917- (1895 in Bad Homburg vor der Höhe KIA 21-11-17) from 3rd Mounted Jaeger Regiment to FA 36 to FA 66 to FA 30 of Bulgarian-German Flying Corps shown shot down Camel (ZSqn 2 Wing RNAS LtCdr Wood KIA) near Murdos 20-8-17 (16 victories)
Faller Lt Observer Airforce 1918 Tayyare Boluk 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Felstead T. Lt Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 reported died 1-1-18 possibly illness? (not identified)
Fleischfresser Capt Technical Airforce Yildirim ordularinda uçak birliklerinde teknik komutan 1917-18 with Von Beguelin commanded retreat from Dera 9-18 (not identified)
Fray Lt Pilot airforce att Ottoman Forces 1913 1913- two pilots and one observer who served with the Ottoman Army in 1912-13 during the Balkan War 1913
Fritsch Ernst Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1916-17 (1882 at Kassel DoD 9-12-17) of illness near Damascus (not identified)?
Fröhner Paul Lt deR Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1883 at Berlin died 2-9-18) near Tefik Bey cause not stated?
Gauss or Gauß Joseph Flieger Airforce (unit unknown possibly Jasta 300) 1916-17 (1895 at Gr.-Zimmern DoD 9-2-17) died of illness in Turkey
Gilcher Heinrich Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1894 at Ludwigsthal DoD 10-6-18) died of illness at Damascus
Giror Kurt Civil / Lt Pilot Airforce 2-15 Tayyare Boluk 1915-16 RTG 4-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Göbler Rudolf Julius Flieger Ground crew Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1899 at Duisburg died 25-9-18) in hosp at Rayak Syria - Gerade 18 Jahre alt verstarb er nach kurzer Krankheit in Lazarett. Er diente beim Armeeflugpark der Heeresgruppe F im Heiligen Land. Er starb in Rayak/Syrien - das Grab existiert wohl nicht mehr. later grave lost
Goßler Gustav von Capt Airforce Feldflieger-Truppe 1917-18 (born at Brandenburg ) Ex Gren Regt No 3
Graetz (Maj) Pilot Airforce to Airforce Chief of Staff 9-17 to Airforce chief of Air staff to Serno 2-18 - Ist. Yesilköy'de uçak teknik isletmeleri ve pilot ve gözcülerin egitim sorumlusu (Ist. Aircraft technical operations in Yesilköy and training officer of pilots and watchmen) Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) at Air station at Yesilköy 1917-18 replaced Serno 9-17 than replaced by Serno 2-18 (not identified)
Gretz von Maj Observer Airforce 9-15 shown T/OC Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) at Air station at Yesilköy 1915-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Groteclaes Fritz Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) (not identified) 1917-18 (1882 at Eupen died 31-10-18) cause not stated? (not identified)
Grunwald Georg Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1899 at Elblag - DoW 24-12-18) shown died from wounds as PoW in Cairo
Hadenk Walter Lt deR Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1891 at Berlin died 17-9-18) in Turkey cause not stated? (not identified)
Hans Lt Observer Airforce Tayyare Boluk 1917 1917-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hardt Johannes Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1896 at Kelsterbach died 2-9-18) near Tefik Bey cause not stated? (not identified)
Hartmann Johannes Miutmiss Lt Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 shown died 22-9-18 cause not stated? (not identified)?
Heere Paul Gefr Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1889 at Teltow died 15-9-18) in Palestine cause not stated?
Heindorf Willy Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (died 9-7-18) grave at Tarabya Istanbul cause not stated? nicht auf großen Gedenktafeln (not identified)
Hentelburg Lt Pilot Airforce 1917-18 shown with Euringer and Liebmann wrote account
Hertlein Friedrich Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1916-17 (1893 at München DoD 15-12-17) of illness at Damascus (not identified)
Hienrick Lt Pilot Airforce 1-18 Tayyare Boluk 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hoacker (Hofacker) ObLt Pilot Airforce 1-18 Tayyare Boluk att ADC to (Keiper) Kommdr de Flieger 3rd Army near Bulgaria 1918 1918- shown in Bulgarian Front 1918 (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hogrefe (Hogräfe) Friedrich Unteroffizier A.Flugpl. Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1893 at Hanover DoD 1-12-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul reported of illness Sammelgrab 2
Holschmitt Lt Observer Airforce 1917 Tayyare Boluk 1917-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Holzschmidt Capt Observer Airforce 1917 shown 6th Army Aircraft Park Baghdad 1918 1918- Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Jaffe Hermann Oberstabsarzt Ground staff Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1886 at Santomischel died 17-5-18) at Damascus cause not stated?
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I notice many Germans also fall into this gap with no units?
Beguelin Hans-Nikolaus Gaston Konstantin von Capt technical Airforce att Jasta 300 - Yildirim ordularinda uçak birliklerinde teknik komutan (Technical commander in aircraft units) 1917-18 (born 1897 at Oppeln ) from 3rd Hannoverian Inf Regt Nr 79 to Capt 10-16 to Turkey with Fleischfresser commanded retreat from Dera 9-18 reported MIA possibly PoW later WWII Luftwaffe Oberstleutnant in Russia
Bestaenier Lt Pilot Airforce de Pasa birliklerinde Filistin ve Irak'ta avci uçak pilotu (in Palestine and Iraq in 1918) Mesopotamia 1918- Mesopotamia (not identifed)?
Beyer (possibly Bayer Fritz) Lt (Capt) Airforce Jasta 300 (Filistin'de 300. Uçus filosunda (in Palestine) - Feldflieger-Truppe 1916- (born at Gößnitz ? )
Birckner Lt Observer airforce att Ottoman Forces 1913 1913- two pilots and one observer who served with the Ottoman Army in 1912-13 during the Balkan War 1913
Bodenschatz Karl-Heinrich Capt staff Airforce (unit unknown) 1916-18 (1890 at Rehau died 1979) from 8th Bavarian Regt to FFA 3b 1916 shown Ottoman War Medal RTG to Jasta 2 to adjt (OzBv) to Manfred von Richthofen JG 1 1918 later WWII Göring's staff & Gen Luftwaffe liaison officer between Hitler’s headquarters WIA 20-7-44 in plot to kill Hitler wrote "(author of Jagd in Flanderns Himmel)" shown with Ottoman War medal
Bömer Capt Observer Airforce 1915-18 shown Bleriot IX "Ertugrul" with Capt Cemal (P) flown over Cardenelles 1-15
Bortsek Capt Airforce representative from the Benz factories 1916- sent to set up engine factory instead set up a maintence factory for engines (not identified)
Erblich Heinz Civil Pilot Airforce 2-15 Tayyare Boluk 1915- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Eschwege Rudolf von Lt Pilot Airforce shown FA 30 Bulgarian-German Flying Corps 1917- (1895 in Bad Homburg vor der Höhe KIA 21-11-17) from 3rd Mounted Jaeger Regiment to FA 36 to FA 66 to FA 30 of Bulgarian-German Flying Corps shown shot down Camel (ZSqn 2 Wing RNAS LtCdr Wood KIA) near Murdos 20-8-17 (16 victories)
Faller Lt Observer Airforce 1918 Tayyare Boluk 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Felstead T. Lt Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 reported died 1-1-18 possibly illness? (not identified)
Fleischfresser Capt Technical Airforce Yildirim ordularinda uçak birliklerinde teknik komutan 1917-18 with Von Beguelin commanded retreat from Dera 9-18 (not identified)
Fray Lt Pilot airforce att Ottoman Forces 1913 1913- two pilots and one observer who served with the Ottoman Army in 1912-13 during the Balkan War 1913
Fritsch Ernst Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1916-17 (1882 at Kassel DoD 9-12-17) of illness near Damascus (not identified)?
Fröhner Paul Lt deR Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1883 at Berlin died 2-9-18) near Tefik Bey cause not stated?
Gauss or Gauß Joseph Flieger Airforce (unit unknown possibly Jasta 300) 1916-17 (1895 at Gr.-Zimmern DoD 9-2-17) died of illness in Turkey
Gilcher Heinrich Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1894 at Ludwigsthal DoD 10-6-18) died of illness at Damascus
Giror Kurt Civil / Lt Pilot Airforce 2-15 Tayyare Boluk 1915-16 RTG 4-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Göbler Rudolf Julius Flieger Ground crew Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1899 at Duisburg died 25-9-18) in hosp at Rayak Syria - Gerade 18 Jahre alt verstarb er nach kurzer Krankheit in Lazarett. Er diente beim Armeeflugpark der Heeresgruppe F im Heiligen Land. Er starb in Rayak/Syrien - das Grab existiert wohl nicht mehr. later grave lost
Goßler Gustav von Capt Airforce Feldflieger-Truppe 1917-18 (born at Brandenburg ) Ex Gren Regt No 3
Graetz (Maj) Pilot Airforce to Airforce Chief of Staff 9-17 to Airforce chief of Air staff to Serno 2-18 - Ist. Yesilköy'de uçak teknik isletmeleri ve pilot ve gözcülerin egitim sorumlusu (Ist. Aircraft technical operations in Yesilköy and training officer of pilots and watchmen) Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) at Air station at Yesilköy 1917-18 replaced Serno 9-17 than replaced by Serno 2-18 (not identified)
Gretz von Maj Observer Airforce 9-15 shown T/OC Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) at Air station at Yesilköy 1915-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Groteclaes Fritz Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) (not identified) 1917-18 (1882 at Eupen died 31-10-18) cause not stated? (not identified)
Grunwald Georg Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1899 at Elblag - DoW 24-12-18) shown died from wounds as PoW in Cairo
Hadenk Walter Lt deR Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1891 at Berlin died 17-9-18) in Turkey cause not stated? (not identified)
Hans Lt Observer Airforce Tayyare Boluk 1917 1917-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hardt Johannes Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1896 at Kelsterbach died 2-9-18) near Tefik Bey cause not stated? (not identified)
Hartmann Johannes Miutmiss Lt Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 shown died 22-9-18 cause not stated? (not identified)?
Heere Paul Gefr Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1889 at Teltow died 15-9-18) in Palestine cause not stated?
Heindorf Willy Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (died 9-7-18) grave at Tarabya Istanbul cause not stated? nicht auf großen Gedenktafeln (not identified)
Hentelburg Lt Pilot Airforce 1917-18 shown with Euringer and Liebmann wrote account
Hertlein Friedrich Flieger Airforce (unit unknown) 1916-17 (1893 at München DoD 15-12-17) of illness at Damascus (not identified)
Hienrick Lt Pilot Airforce 1-18 Tayyare Boluk 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hoacker (Hofacker) ObLt Pilot Airforce 1-18 Tayyare Boluk att ADC to (Keiper) Kommdr de Flieger 3rd Army near Bulgaria 1918 1918- shown in Bulgarian Front 1918 (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hogrefe (Hogräfe) Friedrich Unteroffizier A.Flugpl. Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1893 at Hanover DoD 1-12-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul reported of illness Sammelgrab 2
Holschmitt Lt Observer Airforce 1917 Tayyare Boluk 1917-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Holzschmidt Capt Observer Airforce 1917 shown 6th Army Aircraft Park Baghdad 1918 1918- Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Jaffe Hermann Oberstabsarzt Ground staff Airforce (unit unknown) 1917-18 (1886 at Santomischel died 17-5-18) at Damascus cause not stated?
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Re: Ottoman Air units
Some more shown with the Flugpark, some are mentioned else where;
Göbler Rudolf Julius Flieger Ground crew Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1899 at Duisburg died 25-9-18) in hosp at Rayak Syria - Gerade 18 Jahre alt verstarb er nach kurzer Krankheit in Lazarett. Er diente beim Armeeflugpark der Heeresgruppe F im Heiligen Land. Er starb in Rayak/Syrien - das Grab existiert wohl nicht mehr. later grave lost
Hogrefe (Hogräfe) Friedrich Unteroffizier A.Flugpl. Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1893 at Hanover DoD 1-12-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul reported of illness Sammelgrab 2
Reegs Capt Airforce OC Armee Flugpark F 1917-18 (not identified)?
Riecke Ferdinand Flieger Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1886 at Wien died 2-10-18) at Aleppo cause not stated?
Schmidt Erwin Flieger Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1893 at Berlin died 12-12-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul cause not stated? Sammelgrab 2
Schulz (Schüz or Schulze) Hans ObLt (Capt) Pilot Airforce to Fokker group 12-15 to 6th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1916 to Flugpark Mosul 1916 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 4-16 to OC 2nd Sqn (shown replaced Faller) 3-17 shown Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army (from Aulock) 4-17 to 13th Sqn Tayyare Boluk to Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army 1-18 shown Fighter section at Mosul 4-18 Mesopotamia - Irak'ta 6. Orduda Uçak filolarinin sonraki komutani (In the 6th Army in Iraq the next commander of airplane fleets Mesopotamia (reported to command 17th Sqn Tayyare Boluk but not operational) 1915-18 (died 1941) from FA 66 - claimed shot down 2 enemy planes 12-15 shown shot down a Farman near Sedd-ul-Bahr 11-1-16 & claimed a Farman 12-1-16 with Fokker E1 (F3) claimed a Seaplane in Mesopotamia 24-4-16 shown shot down a BE2c & Short 184 (8044) near Kut-el-Amara 26-4-16 & shot down a BE2c (4558) (FTL) & BE2c near Euphrates River 7-5-16 shown in Halberstadt D5 shot down a BE12 (4585) near Balad Tigris River 3-4-17 & a BE2c (4500) near Samarra Tigris River 15-4-17 shown shot down a Bristol Scout near Tigris River 28-4-17 shown Albatros D3 shot down a RE 8 around Little Zab Mesopotamia (near Altinköprü (Uzunköprü) Palestine) 15-5-18 & unknown EA in Palestine 31-5-18 (shown 10 victories) (Lt Paddy Maguire later died illness as PoW in book by Tennant) to Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army (from Hattendorf) 1918 RTG 10-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Steiner Elias Erich Capt Observer Airforce Jasta 300 - Filistin'de 300. Uçus filosunda (300th Sqn in Palestine) shown OC Armee Flugpark F all of the shops and spare aircraft was based Damascus 9-17 to OC Jasta 305 (other said Jasta 302?) 3-18 - Filistin'de 305. Uçus filosu komutani (305th Sqn in Palestine Flight fleet commander) said to Jasta 305 7-18 & CO Jasta 305 10-18 (after death of Ziegler) ? shown OC Jasta 303 9-18 1917-18 (1883 - died 29-8-43 heart attack) from 123rd Gren R arrived 3-18 shown shot down Lt Steele 111 Sqn RFC near Kafr Qasim or Mulebbis 10-4-18 from 27 July to 18 August and vice-commander from 15 September to 20 October 1918 to Commander from October 20 1918 at the end of the war (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Warsow Capt Airforce OC Armee Flugpark F 9-17 Pasabirliklerinin Uçak Parki komutani (Aircraft Parks Commander) 1917-18
Werther Karl Pte Ground crew Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F att Jasta 304b 1917-18 (1898 at Windischeschenbach
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Göbler Rudolf Julius Flieger Ground crew Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1899 at Duisburg died 25-9-18) in hosp at Rayak Syria - Gerade 18 Jahre alt verstarb er nach kurzer Krankheit in Lazarett. Er diente beim Armeeflugpark der Heeresgruppe F im Heiligen Land. Er starb in Rayak/Syrien - das Grab existiert wohl nicht mehr. later grave lost
Hogrefe (Hogräfe) Friedrich Unteroffizier A.Flugpl. Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1893 at Hanover DoD 1-12-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul reported of illness Sammelgrab 2
Reegs Capt Airforce OC Armee Flugpark F 1917-18 (not identified)?
Riecke Ferdinand Flieger Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1886 at Wien died 2-10-18) at Aleppo cause not stated?
Schmidt Erwin Flieger Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F 1917-18 (1893 at Berlin died 12-12-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul cause not stated? Sammelgrab 2
Schulz (Schüz or Schulze) Hans ObLt (Capt) Pilot Airforce to Fokker group 12-15 to 6th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1916 to Flugpark Mosul 1916 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 4-16 to OC 2nd Sqn (shown replaced Faller) 3-17 shown Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army (from Aulock) 4-17 to 13th Sqn Tayyare Boluk to Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army 1-18 shown Fighter section at Mosul 4-18 Mesopotamia - Irak'ta 6. Orduda Uçak filolarinin sonraki komutani (In the 6th Army in Iraq the next commander of airplane fleets Mesopotamia (reported to command 17th Sqn Tayyare Boluk but not operational) 1915-18 (died 1941) from FA 66 - claimed shot down 2 enemy planes 12-15 shown shot down a Farman near Sedd-ul-Bahr 11-1-16 & claimed a Farman 12-1-16 with Fokker E1 (F3) claimed a Seaplane in Mesopotamia 24-4-16 shown shot down a BE2c & Short 184 (8044) near Kut-el-Amara 26-4-16 & shot down a BE2c (4558) (FTL) & BE2c near Euphrates River 7-5-16 shown in Halberstadt D5 shot down a BE12 (4585) near Balad Tigris River 3-4-17 & a BE2c (4500) near Samarra Tigris River 15-4-17 shown shot down a Bristol Scout near Tigris River 28-4-17 shown Albatros D3 shot down a RE 8 around Little Zab Mesopotamia (near Altinköprü (Uzunköprü) Palestine) 15-5-18 & unknown EA in Palestine 31-5-18 (shown 10 victories) (Lt Paddy Maguire later died illness as PoW in book by Tennant) to Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army (from Hattendorf) 1918 RTG 10-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Steiner Elias Erich Capt Observer Airforce Jasta 300 - Filistin'de 300. Uçus filosunda (300th Sqn in Palestine) shown OC Armee Flugpark F all of the shops and spare aircraft was based Damascus 9-17 to OC Jasta 305 (other said Jasta 302?) 3-18 - Filistin'de 305. Uçus filosu komutani (305th Sqn in Palestine Flight fleet commander) said to Jasta 305 7-18 & CO Jasta 305 10-18 (after death of Ziegler) ? shown OC Jasta 303 9-18 1917-18 (1883 - died 29-8-43 heart attack) from 123rd Gren R arrived 3-18 shown shot down Lt Steele 111 Sqn RFC near Kafr Qasim or Mulebbis 10-4-18 from 27 July to 18 August and vice-commander from 15 September to 20 October 1918 to Commander from October 20 1918 at the end of the war (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Warsow Capt Airforce OC Armee Flugpark F 9-17 Pasabirliklerinin Uçak Parki komutani (Aircraft Parks Commander) 1917-18
Werther Karl Pte Ground crew Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F att Jasta 304b 1917-18 (1898 at Windischeschenbach
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Re: Ottoman Air units
Hassold,
Thank you for posting the photos, nice to see the man.
Do you have any Bio details as I have only
Debus Wilhelm Lt Pilot Airforce Flieger-Abteilung 300 12-17 to (Jasta 55) Jagdstaffel 1 (F) 4-18 shown combined Flieger-Abteilung 300 to OC (from Meirederks KIA) 5-18 to 6-18 1918- from Feldflieger-Abteilung 12 1916 to Jagdstaffel 34b to Jagdstaffel 9 1917 to Flieger-Abteilung 300 12-17 to Jagdstaffel 55 (F) 5-18 (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen) shown in photo of Der Schnellzug Haifa-Afula with Walz and others.
Cheers
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Thank you for posting the photos, nice to see the man.
Do you have any Bio details as I have only
Debus Wilhelm Lt Pilot Airforce Flieger-Abteilung 300 12-17 to (Jasta 55) Jagdstaffel 1 (F) 4-18 shown combined Flieger-Abteilung 300 to OC (from Meirederks KIA) 5-18 to 6-18 1918- from Feldflieger-Abteilung 12 1916 to Jagdstaffel 34b to Jagdstaffel 9 1917 to Flieger-Abteilung 300 12-17 to Jagdstaffel 55 (F) 5-18 (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen) shown in photo of Der Schnellzug Haifa-Afula with Walz and others.
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Re: Ottoman Air units
Hi Steve
Thank you very much for the information. Do you think that Sergeant Reiners could have been flying a Halberstadt getting involved in the combat against the two RE8?
Do you know anything more about this pilot named Reiners?
Thank you very much
LO
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Heidrich Lt (Capt) Pilot Airforce OC 11th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 to 2nd Sqn 8-17 1917-18 Mesopotamia unit disbanded 8-17 reported MIA 30-9-17 reported lost during sortie in Mesopotamia possibly KIA 30-9-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Reiners Sgt / Lt Pilot Airforce 11th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 8-17 1917- Mesopotamia shown Halberstadt D5 (HK3) shot down two planes attacking his airfield near Tikrit 27-9-17 (reported 63 Sqn RFC lost two RE 8's (Phillpot/Begg & Baillon/Grant all PoW) on raid on Tikrit 25-9-17 possibly Probationary Officer late in war? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
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Thank you very much for the information. Do you think that Sergeant Reiners could have been flying a Halberstadt getting involved in the combat against the two RE8?
Do you know anything more about this pilot named Reiners?
Thank you very much
LO
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Heidrich Lt (Capt) Pilot Airforce OC 11th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 to 2nd Sqn 8-17 1917-18 Mesopotamia unit disbanded 8-17 reported MIA 30-9-17 reported lost during sortie in Mesopotamia possibly KIA 30-9-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Reiners Sgt / Lt Pilot Airforce 11th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 8-17 1917- Mesopotamia shown Halberstadt D5 (HK3) shot down two planes attacking his airfield near Tikrit 27-9-17 (reported 63 Sqn RFC lost two RE 8's (Phillpot/Begg & Baillon/Grant all PoW) on raid on Tikrit 25-9-17 possibly Probationary Officer late in war? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
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Re: Ottoman Air units
Hi Steve
Thank you very much for the information. Do you think that Sergeant Reiners could have been flying a Halberstadt getting involved in the combat against the two RE8?
Do you know anything more about this pilot named Reiners?
Thank you very much
LO
Heidrich Lt (Capt) Pilot Airforce OC 11th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 to 2nd Sqn 8-17 1917-18 Mesopotamia unit disbanded 8-17 reported MIA 30-9-17 reported lost during sortie in Mesopotamia possibly KIA 30-9-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Reiners Sgt / Lt Pilot Airforce 11th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 8-17 1917- Mesopotamia shown Halberstadt D5 (HK3) shot down two planes attacking his airfield near Tikrit 27-9-17 (reported 63 Sqn RFC lost two RE 8's (Phillpot/Begg & Baillon/Grant all PoW) on raid on Tikrit 25-9-17 possibly Probationary Officer late in war? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Thank you very much for the information. Do you think that Sergeant Reiners could have been flying a Halberstadt getting involved in the combat against the two RE8?
Do you know anything more about this pilot named Reiners?
Thank you very much
LO
Heidrich Lt (Capt) Pilot Airforce OC 11th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 to 2nd Sqn 8-17 1917-18 Mesopotamia unit disbanded 8-17 reported MIA 30-9-17 reported lost during sortie in Mesopotamia possibly KIA 30-9-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Reiners Sgt / Lt Pilot Airforce 11th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 8-17 1917- Mesopotamia shown Halberstadt D5 (HK3) shot down two planes attacking his airfield near Tikrit 27-9-17 (reported 63 Sqn RFC lost two RE 8's (Phillpot/Begg & Baillon/Grant all PoW) on raid on Tikrit 25-9-17 possibly Probationary Officer late in war? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
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Re: Ottoman Air units
Les,
Mate just to fill you further the account is mentioned here
"According to "In the Clouds above Baghdad", the pilots and observers that were captured were Captain J.R Philpott MC, Lt M.G, Begg MC, Lt E.N, Baillon and Cpl Grant. "
63 squadron lost 2 RE8s on a reconnaissance mission near Tikrit on 25th September
The dates very from records show 25 Sept while others show 27 Sept.
But there close enough for this theate of war
Mate just to fill you further the account is mentioned here
"According to "In the Clouds above Baghdad", the pilots and observers that were captured were Captain J.R Philpott MC, Lt M.G, Begg MC, Lt E.N, Baillon and Cpl Grant. "
63 squadron lost 2 RE8s on a reconnaissance mission near Tikrit on 25th September
The dates very from records show 25 Sept while others show 27 Sept.
But there close enough for this theate of war