German Artillery officer

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German Artillery officer

Post by stevebecker » 28 Jun 2017 03:17

Mates,
Do you have any details on this German officer; Capt Heibey (shown OC 15cm Bty (2x guns) with 1st Canal Expeditionary Force Feb 1915. Another account gives him as: Agir topçu taburu komutani 4. Kolordu Istihbarat subayi Filistin'de Topçu Tüm. Kom.
Can anyone covert this to English? Any detail you have on him would help

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Re: German Artillery officer

Post by Tanzania » 30 Jun 2017 13:28

Hi Steve,

Attached you find two pages with forty German officers which are involved in Egypt during the Great War.
The date of this duplicate is the 17th March 1915 with the reference, that all will be reactive again in the
German Army after the service in the Turkish Army. This might mean that all would be also active 6 weeks
before, during the first Turkish / German attack on the Suez canal, on 3rd February 1915.
Page 1 - Kopie.JPG
Page 2 - Kopie.JPG
Heibey was mentioned on the second page under the last number 40. There he was only listed as First
Lieutenant / Artillery Instructor in the Artillery-Teaching-Regiment of the foot artillery / shooting school.
Kreß von Kressenstein mentioned in his book, about Heibey´s 15-cm howitzers:
" He succeeded in achieving a direct hit on the English warship Hardings lying on Lake Timsah ".

Cheers Holger
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Re: German Artillery officer

Post by Glenn2438 » 30 Jun 2017 20:00

Steve,

Gustav Heibey was commissioned in the Hannoverian Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 10 with seniority as a Leutnant of 19.07.05. He was transferred to the Instructional regiment of the Foot Artillery School of Gunnery on 1 October 1912 and promoted to Oberleutnant on 4 July 1914. Promoted to Hauptmann on 18 August 1915, he retired in 1920 as a brevet (charakterisierter Major). He served as a divisional artillery commander as a Turkish Major on the Palestine front.

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Glenn

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Re: German Artillery officer

Post by stevebecker » 01 Jul 2017 02:28

Mates,

Danke,

Glenn and Holger, do you have anymore on his service with the Ottoman Army?

I have been trying to identify what Battery he commanded, but hit a brick wall.

The only other identified Ottoman Heavy (agir) battery during 1915/16 is the 10th Heavy (Agir) How bty (4x150mm guns) during the Aug 1916 battles with the 3rd Div.

Other then the AH batteries that is.

But no commander is known for the 10th Heavy (Agir) How bty, I did wonder if he was it?

I could not find what Div, he possibly remained commander Divisional Artillery in Palestine, any ideas?

I notice one of our members wrote this in Turkish

"Agir topçu taburu komutani 4. Kolordu Istihbarat subayi Filistin'de Topçu Tüm. Kom"

While Agir is known the rest has me beat?

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Re: German Artillery officer

Post by Tosun Saral » 03 Jul 2017 13:06

"Agir topçu taburu komutani 4. Kolordu Istihbarat subayi Filistin'de Topçu Tüm. Kom"

Ağır is your agir
topçu : artillery
tabur: Battalion
taburu : battalion of
komutan. Commander
komutani: of the commander
also:
Agir topçu taburu komutani: Ağır Topçu Taburu Komutanı is Commander of Heavy artillery battaion
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Re: German Artillery officer

Post by Tosun Saral » 03 Jul 2017 13:20

4. Kolordu Istihbarat subayi Filistin'de Topçu Tüm. Kom

4. is 4th
Kolordu: AC
istihbarat: intelligance
subay: officer
istihbarat subayı: Officer of intellegence

Filistin'de ; In Palestina
Tüm. : abbreviation of Tümen: division
Kom.: abbreviation of Komutan: commander
also
Filistin'de Topçu Tüm. Kom. : Filistin'de Topçu Tümen Komutanı: Commander of artillery division in Palestina

TS's Not. Kuk called their artillery battaions as divizion. The Kuk artillery at Sinai Palestina was von Marno Artillerie Divizion. So that Haibey could not be a C og art. division. He must be C of a battalion. On the other hand I am not sure with the name Haibey??? He must be Herr Hai. bey is the turkish tittle as you know.

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Re: German Artillery officer

Post by stevebecker » 04 Jul 2017 01:33

Tosun,

Again you are the best, thank you.

The Intell officer 4th Corps had me for a while, but this must have been before his attachment 1st Canal Expeditionary Force Feb 1915.

So its possible he did command the 10th Heavy (Agir) Artillery (Tabur) Bty or an Artillery Group for the 2nd Canal Expeditionary Force in the Aug 1916 battles in Sinai ?

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Re: German Artillery officer

Post by Tosun Saral » 05 Jul 2017 20:30

Never heard of him.
Yes its possible he did command the 10th Heavy (Agir) Artillery (Tabur) Bty or an Artillery Group for the 2nd Canal Expeditionary
I never heard of his name during my serches about 2nd Canal. He is not also a KuK officer. If he as a Kuk I would knoew him

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Re: German Artillery officer

Post by Tosun Saral » 05 Jul 2017 20:32

The book Birinci.... dont mention his name

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Re: German Artillery officer

Post by Tosun Saral » 03 Jan 2018 17:18

Kress mentiones the name of Haibey as "Capt.Hailey" :) HAILEY

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Re: German Artillery officer

Post by stevebecker » 04 Jan 2018 02:59

Tosun,

Interesting.

Misspelling of names appears common in all books, even German books.

That's why all names should be double checked, as even the best get them wrong?

Cheers

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