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Mates,
We always look at the 15th Corps storm unit, while the others attack/storm units are often over looked.
A captured Order gives us that by late 1917 each Corps & Div to form - Attack/Storm Bn's and Co's.
These were to be formed as such;
Attack/storm Bn - HQ Co + 2xStorm Co's (14x LMGs) + 1xMG Co (6xMGs) + 1xMinenwefer Co + 1xEng Co (total 25 officers 888 men) -
attack/storm Co's 1xCo + MG Sect (3x LMGs) & Eng Sect (7 officers 318 men)
reported steel helmets issued but worn only on patrols or operations
Each Division formed their own Attack/Storm Companies drawn up of the best men in the Division.
While Attack/Storm Bns were made up from the same sources.
Clearly the total strengths were never achived both in men and equiptment.
some I have;
Comp Div attack/Storm Co (140 men)
20th Div attack/storm Co (70 men)
26th Div attack/storm Co (100 men)
20th Corps attack/storm Bn (400 men)
4th Army 1st Attack/storm Bn (150 men 4xMGs)
7th Army attack/storm Bn (150 men 4 MG's)
8th Army attack/storm Bn (200 men 4xMGs)
I have found attack/Storm Bn's and Co's in formations in Palestine and Mesopotamia, but Have seen no Order of battles for the Caucasus during this time to confirm if they also formed these there?
The (LMG) Light Machine guns, are the new Bergman LMG, while the Heavy Maxim still formed the main weapon.
If you have found any more on these units or have ORbats from the Eastern Armies during still time. We would all like to seen them.
Cheers
S.B
We always look at the 15th Corps storm unit, while the others attack/storm units are often over looked.
A captured Order gives us that by late 1917 each Corps & Div to form - Attack/Storm Bn's and Co's.
These were to be formed as such;
Attack/storm Bn - HQ Co + 2xStorm Co's (14x LMGs) + 1xMG Co (6xMGs) + 1xMinenwefer Co + 1xEng Co (total 25 officers 888 men) -
attack/storm Co's 1xCo + MG Sect (3x LMGs) & Eng Sect (7 officers 318 men)
reported steel helmets issued but worn only on patrols or operations
Each Division formed their own Attack/Storm Companies drawn up of the best men in the Division.
While Attack/Storm Bns were made up from the same sources.
Clearly the total strengths were never achived both in men and equiptment.
some I have;
Comp Div attack/Storm Co (140 men)
20th Div attack/storm Co (70 men)
26th Div attack/storm Co (100 men)
20th Corps attack/storm Bn (400 men)
4th Army 1st Attack/storm Bn (150 men 4xMGs)
7th Army attack/storm Bn (150 men 4 MG's)
8th Army attack/storm Bn (200 men 4xMGs)
I have found attack/Storm Bn's and Co's in formations in Palestine and Mesopotamia, but Have seen no Order of battles for the Caucasus during this time to confirm if they also formed these there?
The (LMG) Light Machine guns, are the new Bergman LMG, while the Heavy Maxim still formed the main weapon.
If you have found any more on these units or have ORbats from the Eastern Armies during still time. We would all like to seen them.
Cheers
S.B
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stevebecker
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Mates,
British Intell reports dated 8 Dec 1917 on the operations at El Burj gave this detail on the 15th Corps Attack/storm Bn used by the 19th Div against the 3rd LH Bde.
(1st and 2nd Companies) 2xcompanies each 150 men 4 Auto Rifles
(3rd Company) Engineers 120 men
(4th Company) 1x MG company 6 Mgs
Trench Mortars Battery 4x TM's
Its clear that the planned Orbat never come to pass as the weapon and personal never made the numbers required, this Storm Bn appears to have around 500 to 600 men, not the 900 shown as a possible Orbat?
Cheers
S.B
British Intell reports dated 8 Dec 1917 on the operations at El Burj gave this detail on the 15th Corps Attack/storm Bn used by the 19th Div against the 3rd LH Bde.
(1st and 2nd Companies) 2xcompanies each 150 men 4 Auto Rifles
(3rd Company) Engineers 120 men
(4th Company) 1x MG company 6 Mgs
Trench Mortars Battery 4x TM's
Its clear that the planned Orbat never come to pass as the weapon and personal never made the numbers required, this Storm Bn appears to have around 500 to 600 men, not the 900 shown as a possible Orbat?
Cheers
S.B