Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

Tosun Saral · Post by **Tosun Saral** » 09 Nov 2005 19:56

On November 10th 1938 Mustafa Kemal Ataturk died. He was a great soldier, a war hero, a great statesman and a peace maker. Unique hero Ataturk Turks are grateful to you.
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Mustafa Kemal's quote " Peace at home, Peace at whole World"

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's speach to ANZAC, French and British "You heroes, who spilled their blood and lost their lives here in this land! Now you are lying in the lands of a friendly nation. Rest in peace. For us, there is no difference between our Mehmetciks (Turkish soldiers) and Johnnies who are lying side by side here. You, the Mothers of far lands who had sent your sons to war! Wipe your tears! Your sons are on our bosoms. They are in peace here. After giving their lives on these lands, they have become our children also!"
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brachycephal · Post by **brachycephal** » 01 Apr 2006 20:58

Ataturk's mean father of turks.
that's way..

Sewer King · Post by **Sewer King** » 03 Apr 2006 03:03

An Australian told me that in fact Turkish veterans of the Great War were much welcomed in later years by those of the ANZACs (the last Great War ANZAC died at age 103 in the last ten years). These Turks attended their reunions I think.

I had asked about this because I sensed that WW2 Japanese veterans were not kindly recalled by their Aussie counterparts. So why were Turks so well received? He told me that Turks more or less fought the Aussies "fair and square" in WW1, while the WW2 Japanese raise memories of massacres, death marches and atrocities against their mates in captivity. This is not to say that all Japanese forces did such things -- only that broader national memory works that way.

Kim Sung · Post by **Kim Sung** » 03 Apr 2006 05:44

Sewer King wrote:I had asked about this because I sensed that WW2 Japanese veterans were not kindly recalled by their Aussie counterparts. So why were Turks so well received?

Japanese war veterans themselves might know well why they are not kindly recalled by their former adversaries.

Tosun Saral · Post by **Tosun Saral** » 03 Apr 2006 21:06

Dear Sewer King, A nice hello from Ankara.
First of all we must understand the Japaneese mentality. It is different then Europeans. For Japaneese it is an honour to die on battlefield for emperor, Japan and Family. A Jap never surrender. To be a POW for a Jap means dishonour.His friends, family can not tolerate such a low situation. The POW of British, US and ANZAC were all low people for the Japs. Instead of diying on their tranches they surrended. Therefore they were treated misirable. They should not sorrender but die. Thats why we hear that a Jap soldier still hides in jungle. After the emperors orders they surrended.

On the other hand for a Turk is also an honour to die in a battle. We call such a martyr "Schehit" A Scheits has a place in paradise. It is written in Holy Kor'an. It is also written in Kor'an that moslems must fight againts enemy clean and without intrigues. If the enemy believes in one of the 3 heavenly religions he must be treated humanly. If the enemy surenders he must treated humanly. He must be consumed as a friend. The wounded enemy soldiers must be cured before our wounded.

This is the mentality of East. Hard to understand.