Third Reich newsreel soundtracks

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Re: Third Reich newsreel soundtracks

Post by Panzerspitze » 30 Aug 2017 02:37

Panzerspitze wrote:
Panzerspitze wrote: Second, what is the music during Joseph Darnand's speech around the 8:00 mark in Part 1 of DW Nr. 715? Is it of French or German origin?
https://www.net-film.us/film-55124/
direct link to Part 1 of Nr. 715
https://fs.net-film.ru/fs41453.mp4
Darn, I just realized that this refrain actually continues on until the end of the OKW West meeting in the next scene. The same music is used in DDW Nr. 512 (Verdun scene) and Nr. 749 (Volksgrendiere scene). So two out of three scenes are related to France.
Nope. I correct myself again. The melody played during Joseph Darnand's speech in Nr. 715 does not carry over through the OKW West meeting scene following it. I've found the former refrain also appearing in Nr. 730 around the 3:00 mark.

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Re: Third Reich newsreel soundtracks

Post by Panzerspitze » 31 Aug 2017 00:54

Is there a name to this music?

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Re: Third Reich newsreel soundtracks

Post by Panzerspitze » 03 Sep 2017 23:58

And is there a name to this music from Nr. 697 (though it could be actually two different pieces)? The first part of it also appears in Nr. 715.

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Re: Third Reich newsreel soundtracks

Post by Panzerspitze » 10 Sep 2017 21:31

Is it just me, or are the 1:25 part of the first clip and the 1:00 part of clip #2 identical? Yet, the rest of the music from the two clips are very different.



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Re: Third Reich newsreel soundtracks

Post by Ivan Ž. » 10 Sep 2017 21:48

Panzerspitze wrote:Is it just me, or are the 1:25 part of the first clip and the 1:00 part of clip #2 identical? Yet, the rest of the music from the two clips are very different.
Not just you :) It was a popular motif often used as an ending of a composition.

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Re: Third Reich newsreel soundtracks

Post by Panzerspitze » 20 Sep 2017 23:47

Panzerspitze wrote:
Panzerspitze wrote:
Panzerspitze wrote: Second, what is the music during Joseph Darnand's speech around the 8:00 mark in Part 1 of DW Nr. 715? Is it of French or German origin?
https://www.net-film.us/film-55124/
direct link to Part 1 of Nr. 715
https://fs.net-film.ru/fs41453.mp4
Darn, I just realized that this refrain actually continues on until the end of the OKW West meeting in the next scene. The same music is used in DDW Nr. 512 (Verdun scene) and Nr. 749 (Volksgrendiere scene). So two out of three scenes are related to France.
Nope. I correct myself again. The melody played during Joseph Darnand's speech in Nr. 715 does not carry over through the OKW West meeting scene following it. I've found the former refrain also appearing in Nr. 730 around the 3:00 mark.
Can't shake the feeling that this refrain from Nr. 726 is somehow related to the melody played during Joseph Darnand's speech from Nr. 715 above.


Here's a longer version of the same melody in Nr. 730, which surprisingly does not have anything to do with the Frankreich.

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Re: Third Reich newsreel soundtracks

Post by Ivan Ž. » 20 Sep 2017 23:57

Dear Panzerspitze, please restrain yourself from naming the unknown melodies yourself (don't even do it privately, it'll never help you in your research, it might only mislead you in time). Just because you've heard a melody played during a scene with an official, it doesn't automatically become that official's melody. I know you didn't mean anything wrong, but it is wrong and it will make an endless confusion online in time. I've seen it happen too many times in the past. This is all public and most people won't bother to check whether you were just naming a melody for fun or to simplify your text for easier orientation - or whether it was the actual name of the tune. They'll just copy everything as is and spread the misinformation further and further.

I've corrected your text (again). Please be more careful from now on.

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Re: Third Reich movie soundtracks

Post by saukopf » 29 Dec 2017 14:49

Hi guys, I'm new to here.

In Die Deutsche Wochenschau Nr 742 11-23-1944, I find a great music from 11:00 but do not know where it comes from



Could anyone help to identify it? Many thanks!

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Re: Third Reich movie soundtracks

Post by Panzerspitze » 10 Jan 2018 17:49

saukopf wrote:Hi guys, I'm new to here.

In Die Deutsche Wochenschau Nr 742 11-23-1944, I find a great music from 11:00 but do not know where it comes from



Could anyone help to identify it? Many thanks!
Per Blitzwotan, "Kampf und Sieg" by Richard Strauss, played at 125% speed. :lol:


The original version, starting from the 2m50s mark:


I've found it used in Nrs. 648, 663, 674, 681, 688, 706, 714, 724, and 742 so far.

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Please help me identify this march

Post by Sirlite » 10 May 2018 19:12



Name of the march at the start of parade at 2:03. It sounds similar to the unknown march played by the Leibstandarte for Hitler at Reich Chancellery in Hitler’s 1939 Birthday parade newsreel so I’m thinking this might be the same march. :|

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Re: Please help me identify this march

Post by Ivan Ž. » 15 May 2018 14:52

Hello again, Sirlite

First of all, as I wrote recently to another member, when you ask for something and someone actually spends their limited free time on you providing the required information, it is only polite to write at least a "thanks". Reminder: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic ... 1&t=234831

Regarding your newest question - these are the compositions included in the video:

0:00 Präsentiermarsch [AM I, 1a] [AM III, 1a] (Friedrich Wilhelm III. König von Preußen)
0:10 Marcia Reale (Giuseppe Gabetti)
0:18 Giovinezza (Giuseppe Blanc - Salvator Gotta)
0:25 Deutschlandlied (Joseph Haydn - Hoffmann von Fallersleben)
1:20 ? * a known composition, but I can't remember its title at the moment
2:03 Heil Motorstandarte (Willy Milius)
2:19 Regimentsgruß [HM II, 4] (Heinrich Steinbeck)
2:52 Hohenfriedberger Marsch [AM I, 1c] [AM III, 1b] (Anonym)
3:07 Defiliermarsch [AM II, 168] (Carl Faust)


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