Horst-Wessel-Lied (Die Fahne hoch...)
Horst-Wessel-Lied (Die Fahne hoch...)
[Several topics dealing with the same song have been merged by the host, Ivan Ž.]
Hallo,
I think you all know the Horst-Wessel-Song, also known as "Die Fahne hoch", which glorify the SA. This song was sung by HJ and others until the end in 1945. Now my question is, how the leaders of NS-Germany justificated this song?
I ask it, because the SA-leaders were murdered in 1934 by the SS and followly the SA lost all meaning it had. The SA wanted a second nationalsocialist revolution, that's why it was smashed. Now, I am wondered, why the NS has sung an anthem of a rebellious organisation.
Morris
Hallo,
I think you all know the Horst-Wessel-Song, also known as "Die Fahne hoch", which glorify the SA. This song was sung by HJ and others until the end in 1945. Now my question is, how the leaders of NS-Germany justificated this song?
I ask it, because the SA-leaders were murdered in 1934 by the SS and followly the SA lost all meaning it had. The SA wanted a second nationalsocialist revolution, that's why it was smashed. Now, I am wondered, why the NS has sung an anthem of a rebellious organisation.
Morris
The song doesn't necessarily glorify the SA, it glorifies the cause of the Party. Remember, the SS wore brownshirts initially, too.
Horst Wessel. From what I remember, he was a young SA thug who was killed by a Commie in a fight over a girl. They turned him into a Martyr because they needed such things for inspiration doing that era of the Party's life.
I got to ask, anyone know Wessel's Unit/Sector etc? I mean the color on his can and the numbers on his collar tab, since I know I sound jumbled
Horst Wessel. From what I remember, he was a young SA thug who was killed by a Commie in a fight over a girl. They turned him into a Martyr because they needed such things for inspiration doing that era of the Party's life.
I got to ask, anyone know Wessel's Unit/Sector etc? I mean the color on his can and the numbers on his collar tab, since I know I sound jumbled
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Horst-Wessel-Gedenkmarsch
Hi.
For what purpose was "Horst-Wessel-Gedenkmarsch" originally composed and was it associated to certain events like parades and funerals? The overall theme seems rather sad and the ending part of the march is somehow moving, magnificent where the triumphal melody turns into a slow but still recognizable Horst Wessel Lied that is played slightly different way than usually. When I heard the march first time I had a strange feeling that the title was composed when everything was collapsing around, as sort of a memorial to glorious past - but was it really that way?
Anyone else had similar feelings/thoughts about this rather peculiar march? Who was the composer (my guess is Müller-John, as the bandmaster of Leibstandarte) and what was the year/event this was first time played?
[Title corrected by the host; "Leibstandarten-Gedenkmarsch" and "Horst Wessel-SS-Gedenkmarsch" are fictional titles.]
For what purpose was "Horst-Wessel-Gedenkmarsch" originally composed and was it associated to certain events like parades and funerals? The overall theme seems rather sad and the ending part of the march is somehow moving, magnificent where the triumphal melody turns into a slow but still recognizable Horst Wessel Lied that is played slightly different way than usually. When I heard the march first time I had a strange feeling that the title was composed when everything was collapsing around, as sort of a memorial to glorious past - but was it really that way?
Anyone else had similar feelings/thoughts about this rather peculiar march? Who was the composer (my guess is Müller-John, as the bandmaster of Leibstandarte) and what was the year/event this was first time played?
[Title corrected by the host; "Leibstandarten-Gedenkmarsch" and "Horst Wessel-SS-Gedenkmarsch" are fictional titles.]
Re: Horst-Wessel-Gedenkmarsch
"Horst-Wessel-Gedenkmarsch" was one of two marches composed by Hans Bajer in 1932 as a tribute to Horst Wessel (and they both contain the melody of the "Horst-Wessel-Lied" in trio). There was never a slightest connection between the composition and the SS, that is all just a fiction created in the 1990s.
Cheers,
Ivan
Cheers,
Ivan
For anyone with an interest in the "Horst Wessel Lied / Die Fahne hoch!" song-lyrics....then visit this link for an academic explanation of the many known variants of additional Horst Wessel Lied verses: http://www.george-broderick.de/ns_docs/ ... l_lied.doc
An example from my own collection..
An example from my own collection..