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Mitridat wrote:There is a curious coincidence: the same melody is used in the German newsreel about Kiev occupation in 1941 (from 3:00 to the end): https://youtu.be/Jantejjmprc
and in the Soviet newsreel showing Soviet troops entering Kiev in 1943 (must be containing the whole melody -- the similar fragment starts at 5:00): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xdv9wRWZxU
It must be a classical melody -- does anyone know?
I just figured it out: It's Franz Liszt's "Mazeppa", Symphonische Dichtung Nr. 6.
I have found Mazeppa used in Die Deutsche Wochenschau Nr. 579, Nr. 612, Nr. 616, Nr. 639, Nr. 685, Nr. 689, and Nr. 731.
Mitridat wrote:There is a melody in German newsreels that is apparently associated with Finland: it accompanies, for example, Mannerheim's visit to Germany (starting from 0:58 in the fragment below). Is it from a famous symphony? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vUYi5m5hE8
It might be part of the so-called "Mannerheim Suite", which I'm not sure was specifically composed for the Die Deutsche Wochenschau or from some classical adaptation. I have found parts of it in Die Deutsche Wochenschau Nr. 614, Nr. 618, Nr. 627, Nr. 632, and Nr. 713. Hermann Göring appeared in three of those.
Yes, it does "sound more authoritative" as you described it, since it is The official (radio) recording of the song. The arranger is Hanns Steinkopf (one of the main radio arrangers) and the performer is Orchester des Reichssenders Berlin + Musikkorps des Regiments "General Göring", conducted by the composer, Herms Niel. Vocals by Männerchor des Deutschen Opernhauses, Berlin + a large soldiers' chorus (unnamed unit).
Thankyou for replying so quickly and comprehensively - I appreciate it! I wonder if there are 'clean' versions of these fascinating tunes available somewhere. It would be so interesting to study how the average German of those times responded to these bombastic and powerful recordings. One might think that younger Germans who danced to the 'trendy' jitterbug tunes from america would be more cynical to this grandiose propaganda music, but then younger Germans often proved the most fanatical members of the military...
What's the beginning soundtrack during the NSDAP/Dr. Ley visit in Italy? It sounds familiar. Initially I thought it's from Olympia, but a quick scan of Olympia didn't turn up anything close. Then I thought it might be from Wagner's Rienzi, but which part?
Can someone please help with identification of the music at 14.25 - 15.35 in this Wochenschau?
The music is played in various Wochenschauen when showing advancing troops. It mainly occurs in Wochenschau reels from the first months of the Russian campaign, but is occasionally used before that, like in the clip above, Wochenschau 512 showing the Frankreichfeldzug.