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Post by FreiDurchDieTat » 24 Jun 2007 08:19

So I'm assuming everyone has their copies of "Hoch Deutschlands Flotte! Music of the Imperial German Navy in Archival Recordings 1907-1917" by now...?

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I'd like to hear from Ivan as to how accurate the performer credits are; usually anything by Brandenburg Historica is pretty good though I think...
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 26 Jun 2007 18:53

I don't have the CD yet, but I can assure you that the infos are fine, since they're all copied directly from the original records.

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Re: Les Waffen SS [3 LP]

Post by linnage » 18 Aug 2007 20:47

It had claimed there an Austrian song Nazi in the discs ss of the serp first version I do not have more the title.

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Re: Les Waffen SS [3 LP]

Post by capitaine15 » 18 Aug 2007 21:37

linnage wrote:It had claimed there an Austrian song Nazi in the discs ss of the serp first version I do not have more the title.
Effectivement le disque 33 tours 'SERP' SS n°1 évoque un chant baptisé: 'Ostmarklied' - Chant de la marche de l'Est - Chant des nationaux socialistes autrichiens. Mais en fait, il s'agit de:
Ivan Ž. wrote:Wachau (Wach’ auf, deutsche Wachau!) [Lied] [Op. 317]
Composer: Heinrich Strecker
Lyricist: Dr. Hans Heger; Heinrich Strecker
Vocalist: Erwin Hartung
Vocal Group: Männerchor
Instrumental Group: Orchester
Conductor: Walter Schütze
Recording Date: 03.1937
Recording Location: Berlin, Lützowstraße 111-112
Record Company: Deutsche Grammophon AG, Berlin
salutations

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Re: Les Waffen SS [3 LP]

Post by linnage » 18 Aug 2007 21:54

Merci pour l'information, le reportage sur la waffen ss française c'est un original ou une reconstitution après guerre c'est parfois à la limite de la comédie mais à l'époque la propagande était souvent exagérée. Je crois qu'il faut écrire en anglais sur le forum.

Thank you for the information, the report on the French waffen ss it is an original or a reconstruction after war it is sometimes on the verge of the comedy but in the time(period) the propaganda was often exaggerated. I believe that it is necessary to write in English on the forum

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Re: In Treue allezeit [2 LP/CD]

Post by capitaine15 » 18 Sep 2007 08:03

Hello Ivan

Thanks for your precious infos!

However, you wrote:

Ivan Ž. wrote:U-Boot-Marsch [aus dem Kulturfilm „U-Boote am Feind“]

Any doubt about the title of the film?

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Bruno

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Re: In Treue allezeit [2 LP/CD]

Post by Ivan Ž. » 18 Sep 2007 08:18

Ahoi, Bruno

You're welcome, and the title of the film is indeed "U-Boote am Feind".

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Post by shipjump » 23 Sep 2007 03:33

Have the CD 'Selected Third Reich Music Favourites' Has very good quality, recomended.

Ivan, do you know the exact titel with composer and texter, so I can tag them exactly.

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Third Reich Music Favourites [CD]

Post by Ivan Ž. » 24 Sep 2007 08:58

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Third Reich Music Favourites
16 famous tracks from Tomahawk’s military marching & soldier-song series
Digital Remastering: Simon Wood
© Tomahawk Films


The Military Music of Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich

01. The Horst Wessel Song
02. Bomben auf Engeland
03. Westerwald [...]
04. Preussens Gloria

05. Wir fahren gegen Engeland
06. Fallschirmjägerlied
07. Mein Regiment, mein Heimatland
08. Panzer rollen in Afrika Vor

Wunschkonzert für die Wehrmacht

09. Introduction
10. Erika
11. Drei Madels
12. Kreuzritter Fanfare
13. Lili Marleen
14. Im Schutzenhaus ist Blasmusik
15. Kartner Liedermarsch
16. Gute Nacht Mutter
NOT RECOMMENDED. This CD was supposed to be a commercial preview for the two larger CD sets of the same company; I don't see why would such an album exist in the first place, but nevermind that now. The sound quality is good, the track info doesn't exist, as usual - but the worst part is the fact that the track selection is very bad, and that, in my humble opinion, this compilation is actually an anti-commercial for those two larger CD sets. There are even two pre-Third-Reich and one post-Third-Reich recording, which is already too much for such a short compilation. And also, as it was mentioned here earlier, all tracks claimed to have been recorded during the "Wunschkonzert für die Wehrmacht" show (in this CD, those are tracks 9-16) are fakes and thus are all off-topic. Detailed info below.


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The Military Music of Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich

01. Horst-Wessel-Lied (Die Fahne hoch!)
Melody: ?/ Composer: Anonym
Lyricist: Horst Wessel
Vocalist: SS-Flieger Rolf Sandor
Vocal Group: Chor des SA-Sturms 3/12, Berlin
Instrumental Group: Kapelle des S. Sturmbanns 12, Berlin
Conductor: Musikzugführer Martin Ewers
Recording Date: 1933
Recording Location: Berlin, Lützowstraße 111-112
Record Company: Deutsche Grammophon AG, Berlin

02. Bomben auf Engelland [Marsch und Lied aus dem Tonfilm „Feuertaufe“]
Composer: Norbert Schultze
Lyricist: Wilhelm Stoeppler
Vocal Group: Die vier lustigen Jungens, Berlin
Instrumental Group: Musikkorps des Luftnachrichten-Regiments des Oberbefehlshabers der Luftwaffe, Potsdam-Eiche
Conductor: Obermusikmeister Erich Kiesant
Recording Date: 1940
Recording Location: Berlin
Record Company: Carl Lindström AG, Berlin

Note: feat. Signal „Aufsitzen“ [Zahn] before each strophe

03. Westerwald-Marsch
Composer: Prof. Hans Felix Husadel
Trio: Westerwaldlied (O, du schöner Westerwald)/ Composer/Lyricist: Anonym
Vocal Group: Chor der Bereitschaftspolizei, Berlin
Instrumental Group: Musikkorps der Schutzpolizei, Berlin
Conductor: Obermusikmeister Heinz Winkel
Recording Date: 1954
Recording Location: Berlin
Record Company: Telefunken-Decca Schallplatten GmbH

04. Preußens Gloria [Marsch] [AM II, 240]
Composer: Gottfried Piefke
Arranger: Prof. Theodor Grawert; Prof. Oskar Hackenberger
Instrumental Group: Kapelle der SA-Gruppe Berlin-Brandenburg
Conductor: Musikzugführer Johannes Fuhsel
Recording Date: 1932
Recording Location: Berlin
Record Company: NS-Schallplatten-Industrie

Note: the title refers to Prussia’s victory in the Franco-Prussian War, 1871

05. Matrosenlied (Wir fahren gegen Engelland)
Composer: Herms Niel
Lyricist: Hermann Löns
Arranger: Gustav Skibbe
Vocal Group: Die vier lustigen Jungens, Berlin
Instrumental Group: Musikkorps des Luftnachrichten-Regiments des Oberbefehlshabers der Luftwaffe, Potsdam-Eiche
Conductor: Musikmeister Erich Kiesant
Recording Date: 1939
Recording Location: Berlin
Record Company: Carl Lindström AG, Berlin

Note: feat. the melody of „Matrosenchor“ from „Der fliegende Holländer“ [Wagner] before each strophe, and of „Deutsches Flaggenlied“ [Thiele] at the end of the composition

06. Das Lied der Fallschirmjäger
Composer/Lyricist: Oberjäger Friedrich Schäfer
Arranger: Willi Lachner
Vocal Group: Waldo-Favré-Chor, Berlin
Instrumental Group: Musikkorps des Wachbataillons Berlin
Conductor: Musikmeister Guido Grosch
Recording Date: 24.09.1940
Recording Location: Berlin, Carl Lindström AG (Schlesische Straße 26-27), Raum II
Record Company: Carl Lindström AG, Berlin

07. Mein Nam’ ist Annemarie (Mein Regiment, mein Heimatland)
Composer/Lyricist: Anonym
Arranger: Carl Woitschach
Vocal Group: Chor des SA-Sturms 33/1, Berlin
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester Carl Woitschach, Berlin
Recording Date: 01.11.1933
Recording Location: Berlin, Sing-Akademie (Unter den Linden 5)
Record Company: Telefunken-Platte GmbH, Berlin

Note: the music was based on the melody of „Ein armer Fischer bin ich zwar“ [Anonym] and the lyrics on Donizetti’s opera „La fille du régiment“ [German transl.: Carl Gollmick]

08. Panzer rollen in Afrika vor (Deutsche Panzer in Afrika) [Marsch und Lied]
Composer: Norbert Schultze
Lyricist: Oberstleutnant Ewald Hohmann
Arranger: Erich Schneider-Kamin
Vocal Group: Waldo-Favré-Chor, Berlin
Instrumental Group: Stabsmusikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin
Conductor: Stabsmusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Recording Date: 13.05.1942
Recording Location: Berlin, Central-Theater (Alte Jakobstraße 30-32)
Record Company: Deutsche Grammophon GmbH, Berlin

Note: the composition begins with Signal „Straße frei“ [Anonym]; feat. Signal „Alarm“ [Anonym] after the vocal part


Wunschkonzert für die Wehrmacht

09a. Wunschkonzert-Fanfare
Composer: ?
Instrumental Group: Musikkorps des Wachbataillons Berlin
Conductor: Musikmeister Guido Grosch
Recording Date: 1940
Recording Location: Berlin, Haus des Rundfunks (Masurenallee 8-14), Saal 1
Record Company: Tobis-Klangfilm
* cut from the movie „Wunschkonzert“

09b. CD Producer’s montage
* fragments of two different announcements by Heinz Goedecke cut from the movie „Wunschkonzert“ remixed into one; the applause is also fake

10. Erika (Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein) [Marsch- und Soldatenlied]
Composer/Lyricist: Herms Niel
Arranger: Erich Walden
Vocalist: Erwin Hartung
Vocal Group: Männerchor
Instrumental Group: Tanzorchester Adalbert Lutter, Berlin
Recording Date: 15.06.1939
Recording Location: Berlin, Sing-Akademie (Unter den Linden 5)
Record Company: Telefunken-Platte GmbH, Berlin

11. Drei Mädels (Die Lore und die Lene und die Liese) [Marschlied]
Composer: Dr. Werner Kleine
Lyricist: Erwin Albrecht
Arranger: Bruno Hartmann
Vocal Group: Heyn-Quartett, Berlin
Instrumental Group: Joe Alex mit seinen Solisten, Berlin
Recording Date: 1941
Recording Location: Berlin
Record Company: Tempo-Schallplatten GmbH, Berlin-Wilmersdorf

12. Kreuzritter-Fanfare [Fanfarenmarsch Nr. 3] [AM II, 235] [AM III, 113]
Composer: Richard Henrion
Arranger: Prof. Oskar Hackenberger
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester
Conductor: Joseph Snaga
Recording Date: 1929
Recording Location: Berlin, Hochschule für Musik (Fasanenstraße 1b)
Record Company: Deutsche Grammophon AG, Berlin

13. Lili Marleen (Lied eines jungen Wachtpostens)
Composer: Norbert Schultze
Lyricist: Soldat Hans Leip
Arranger: Bruno Seidler-Winkler
Vocalist: Dorit Talmadge
Vocal Group: Männerchor
Instrumental Group: Orchester
Conductor: Helmut Koch
Recording Date: 04.11.1941
Recording Location: Berlin, Carl Lindström AG (Schlesische Straße 26-27)
Record Company: Carl Lindström AG, Berlin

Note: the recording begins with Signal „Zapfenstreich“ [Anonym]

14. Im Schützenhaus ist Blasmusik mit Tanz [Marschlied im Volkston]
Composer: Fritz German
Lyricist: Willy Rosen; Marcel Lion
Arranger: Franz Stolzenwald
Vocalist: Kurt Mühlhardt
Instrumental Group: Tanzorchester Oskar Joost, Berlin
Recording Date: 1933
Recording Location: Berlin
Record Company: Deutsche Crystalate GmbH, Berlin-Reinickendorf

Note: feat. one of the melodies from Seifert’s „Kärntner-Lieder-Marsch“

15. Kärntner-Lieder-Marsch [Op. 80] [AM II, 192] [HM II, 69]
Dedication: Dem Männergesangvereine zu Klagenfurt gewidmet
Composer: Anton Seifert
Arranger: Prof. Theodor Grawert; Prof. Oskar Hackenberger
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester Carl Woitschach, Berlin
Recording Date: 01.11.1933
Recording Location: Berlin, Sing-Akademie (Unter den Linden 5)
Record Company: Telefunken-Platte GmbH, Berlin

Contents: ?

16. Gute Nacht, Mutter! [Lied]
Composer: Werner Bochmann
Lyricist: Erwin Lehnow
Arranger: Richard Etlinger
Vocalist: Wilhelm Strienz
Instrumental Group: Die Goldene Sieben, Berlin
Recording Date: 1938
Recording Location: Berlin
Record Company: Electrola GmbH, Berlin



Index of Names:
Albrecht, Erwin (____-____) 11
Alex, Joe (1895-1973) 11
Bochmann, Werner (1900-1993) 16
Donizetti, Gaetano (1797-1848) 7
Etlinger, Richard (1894-1960) 16
Ewers, Martin (1886-1960) 1
Favré, Waldo (1895-1963) 6, 8
Fuhsel, Johannes (1880-____) 4
German, Fritz [pseud.] = Scheibenhofer, Hermann
Goedecke, Heinz (1901-1959) 9b
Gollmick, Carl (1796-1866) 7
Grawert, Theodor (1858-1927) 4, 15
Grosch, Guido (1910-1942) 6, 9a
Hackenberger, Oskar (1872-1929) 4, 12, 15
Hartmann, Bruno (1894-1982) 11
Hartung, Erwin (1901-1986) 10
Henrion, Richard (1854-1940) 12
Heyn, Erich (____-____) 11
Hohmann, Ewald (____-____) 8
Husadel, Hans Felix (1897-1964) 3
Joost, Oskar (1898-1941) 14
Kiesant, Erich (1889-1959) 2, 5
Kleine, Werner (1907-1980) 11
Koch, Helmut (1908-1975) 13
Kümmel, Erich (1906-1960) 10
Lachner, Willi (1895-1955) 6
Lehnow, Erwin (____-____) 16
Leip, Hans (1893-1983) 13
Lion, Marcel (____-____) 14
Löns, Hermann (1866-1914) 5
Lutter, Adalbert (1896-1970) 10
Mühlhardt, Kurt (1903-1980) 14
Niel, Herms (1888-1954) 5, 10
Piefke, Gottfried (1815-1884) 4
Rosen, Willy (1894-1945) 14
Sandor, Rolf (____-____) 1
Schäfer, Friedrich (____-____) 6
Scheibenhofer, Hermann (1872-____) 14
Schneider-Kamin, Erich (____-____) 8
Schultze, Norbert (1911-2002) 2, 8, 13
Seidler-Winkler, Bruno (1880-1960) 13
Seifert, Anton (1826-1873) 15
Skibbe, Gustav (1867-1954) 5
Snaga, Joseph (1871-1946) 12
Stoeppler, Wilhelm (1888-____) 2
Stolzenwald, Franz (1899-1969) 14
Strienz, Wilhelm (1900-1987) 16
Talmadge, Dorit (1919-____) 13
Teichmann, Hans (1888-1961) 8
Thiele, Richard (1847-1903) 5
Wagner, Richard (1813-1883) 5
Walden, Erich [pseud.] = Kümmel, Erich
Wessel, Horst (1907-1930) 1
Winkel, Heinz (1914-1962) 3
Woitschach, Carl (1864-1939) 7, 15
Zahn, Christian Jakob (1765-1830) 2



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Re: Third Reich Music Favourites [CD]

Post by shipjump » 24 Sep 2007 21:47

How nice Ivan, you corrected it so I can tag it now. I wish I had all the others from Tomahawk...

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Post by In Treue fest » 21 Oct 2007 22:30

Hi Ivan!

You've done a great job here!

Would you please be so kind to tell us what your sources for your exact informations are? Did you have access to some of the original vinyl records?

If you should have explained it already somewhere above in the thread and I should have overread your explanation, sorry for asking again!

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 22 Oct 2007 09:16

Sources are the original records, period record catalogs, songcards, songbooks, original recording lists, music sheets, musical monthly reports, copyright catalogs, works of authors such as Prieberg and Toeche-Mittler, of course, and many others...

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Re: Elitesoldaten [CD]

Post by Schmeisser » 04 Dec 2007 12:41

Hello! Ivan, isn't Car Teike the composer of "Treue um Treue"?

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Re: Elitesoldaten [CD]

Post by Ivan Ž. » 04 Dec 2007 13:14

Hello!

There's more than one march with the title "Treue um Treue"...

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Re: Pirate CDs

Post by Auceps » 06 Dec 2011 15:18

Music of the Reichswehr
The first march from that CD is really "Reichswehr-Marsch" from Johann Brussig. He is a sufficiently popular composer among various German amateur brass orchestras.

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