Nibelungenmarsch [by G. Sonntag]

[Plavá bestie]

[Topic renamed by the host, Ivan Ž.]

Does anyone know the name of music from this video, started in 05:31 (during mostly SA and some SS parades)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOqHsVrYRk

If you know it, where can I download it? Thank you in advance.
Plavá bestie.

[FreiDurchDieTat]

It is the "Nibelungenmarsch" by Wagner...all of these National Socialist era marchpasts usually use an altered parade arrangment though....also the video loops (cuts and pastes) the catchy refrain to make it seem longer.

The version Heinz Winkel did of this march is top. Look for that.

Cheers,
Erich

[Plavá bestie]

Thank you very much Erich. Found it!
Plavá bestie.

[Ivan Ž.]

"Nibelungenmarsch" by Wagner

...by Gottfried Sonntag (inspired by motifs from Wagner's "Der Ring des Nibelungen")

Cheers,
Ivan

[FreiDurchDieTat]

So Sonntag actually composed that? I always though he was just an arranger or interpreter...I guess that makes sense though as the march is much more bombastic than anything I remember hearing from Wagner himself.

I learn something new everyday.

[Ivan Ž.]

[Split from Bayreuther Festspiele]

Didn't know about this "Nibelungenmarsch", and the interesting history behind it.
Loved it so much, i searched, found and bought immediately the record (Electrola EG 2653).

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KW1_W ... 2KaVAONVfR

My Odeon gramophone with a 1936 Telefunken recording of the Nibelungen Marsch on it, conducted by Wehrmacht Obermusikmeister Adolf Berdien.

Hello, Glenn

A couple of notes that I forgot to post earlier: both Electrola and Telefunken (originally Ultraphon) recordings of the "Nibelungenmarsch" actually pre-date Hitler's Germany. The Electrola recording was made in Aug. 1932 and the Ultraphon/Telefunken's was made in Jan. 1931, both by Reichswehr musicians. They were re-released during the Third Reich too, but the recordings themselves originate from the Weimar Republic. Both were also re-released after WWII, with the military bands "demilitarised" and credited as "Großes Blasorchester".

The true Third Reich recordings of this march aren't really common; I know of only three of them:
- by the band of the Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler", recorded in Jan. 1935, released on Grammophon E 10336 and Polydor 2 17313
- by the band of the Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler", recorded in Aug./Sep. 1935, released on Kristall 2129
- by an unknown civilian band (credited as "Großes Odeon-Orchester"), recorded in Dec. 1937, released on Odeon O-26001 and O-26117

Cheers,
Ivan

[nibelung1876]

Hello Ivan,
Thank You so much for Your expertise!
So if I understand correctly my Electrola record is post war because of the demilitarised “Großes Blasorchester”.
And my Telefunken record is of 1931 conducted by Reichswehr (at that time) conductor Adolf Berdien and “Großes Militär-Orchester”.

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[Ivan Ž.]

Hello, Glenn

That's correct. The original Electrola EG 2653 record, recorded and released at the end of the Weimar Republic period and re-released during the Third Reich period, had the following performer-credits: "Militär-Orchester, Dirigent: Heeresmusikinspizient Schmidt". After the war, when militarism was being suppressed in Germany, that was changed to "Großes Blasorchester Hermann Schmidt". So, what you have there is a post-WWII release of a Weimar recording (another quick indicator of a postwar release is the company's location at the bottom of the label; Electrola was partially moved to Nuremberg only after the war; previously, it was located in Berlin and, until 1932, in Nowawes near Potsdam). It is unknown which military band made the recording; it's possible that it was one of the battalion bands of the 9th (Prussian) Infantry Regiment.

The Ultraphon recording was made and released in 1931, on the Ultraphon A 849 record. After the Telefunken company acquired the Ultraphon company's matrices (March 1932), the recording was re-released on Telefunken A 849 (late Weimar Republic period and the Third Reich period). The performer-credits were identical on both versions: "Großes Militär-Orchester, Dirigent: Obermusikmeister Adolf Berdien". After the war, that was changed to "Großes Blasorchester" (no conductor credited). So, your record is either a Third Reich or a late Weimar release of a Weimar recording. The performing orchestra was the band of the III Battalion, 9th (Prussian) Infantry Regiment, which Berdien conducted for many years.

Cheers,
Ivan

PS
Check out this Wagner/military-related post too viewtopic.php?f=81&t=129087&start=180#p2267965

[nibelung1876]

Thank You Ivan for sharing Your encyclopedic knowledge, very impressive.
I have changed it in my presentation

Greetings, Glenn.

Amazing Rienzi Schellack!