Lur [in use by the Allgemeine SS]

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Lur [in use by the Allgemeine SS]

Post by mty » 26 Sep 2007 23:34

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What is the instrument the Allgemeine SS buglers are playing here, in some kind of an event involving HJ/DJ boys? It must have some tradition value but nevertheless looks quite weird to me :)

Does someone perhaps recognize the building in the background?

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Post by Kal_El » 27 Sep 2007 00:55

its a Lur - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lur

I know that the danish nazis got copies/replicas made in 1939 and used them at their ralleys from that time and onwards.

In the book "Dansk nazisme - 1930-45 og fremefter" by John T. Lauridsen (ISBN:87-00-2005481 "Danish nazisme - 1930-45 and forward") he mention on page 67 that the danish nazi party gave Himmler four lurs as a gift at the end of 1940.

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Post by mty » 27 Sep 2007 08:19

Thank you, Kal_El! You are certainly right with that, one lears something new every day :).

Perhaps they had acquired or made some lures already earlier in the 1930's since the men have old style cap eagles and possibly Prussian style death's head insignia as well. This dates the photo either pre-1934 or pre-1936. Another note of interest is that these buglers don't have the traditional musicians swallow's nests on their shoulders.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 27 Sep 2007 09:32

According to several archives, the place is Lübeck and the event is a Nordic fest, 1935.

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Post by mty » 04 Oct 2007 14:56

Was this a one-time performance or did some specific SS-Standarte perhaps posses these lures? I haven't seen any other photos of them being played than this one which is also reproduced in "Order of the Death's Head" by Höhne.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 29 Sep 2020 11:13

Here are the same four men as pictured in the previous image (only differently arranged).

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Lurenspieler der SS, 1935. Vier SS Männer spielen auf dem nachgebauten germanischen Instrument, der Lure.
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 29 Sep 2020 11:20

These four players, on the other hand, seem to be different from the previously pictured ones (only three are visible though; there's two on each side of the kettle drummer). The number of their Standarte appears to be 46 (not sure).

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Eröffnung der Ausstellung 'Deutsches Volk - Deutsche Arbeit' am Kaiserdamm, 1934. Bei der Eröffnung der Ausstellung 'Deutsches Volk - Deutsche Arbeit' spricht der Berliner Bürgermeister Dr. Sahm. Im Vordergund stehen Musiker einer SS​ Kapelle mit dem nachgebauten germanischen Instrumenten, die Lure.
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Rally - Goebbels speaks, Heinrich Hoffmann Photographs, 1934.
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 29 Sep 2020 11:29

A heavily retouched image of the same lur players as pictured in the last two photos.

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SS-Angehörige blasen Luren. Bei der Eröffnung der Ausstellung 'Deutsches Volk - Deutsche Arbeit' in Berlin 1933 blasen SS-Männer auf Luren, die man in Anlehnung an germanische Tr​aditionen gefertigt hatte.
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