Modern recordings/use of Third Reich music

Discussions on the music in the Third Reich. Hosted by Ivan Ž.
Schmeisser
Member
Posts: 162
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 21:24
Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia

Post by Schmeisser » 11 Sep 2007 17:04

Ivan! THANK YOU!!! :)

User avatar
sobel
Financial supporter
Posts: 748
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 19:20
Location: Britain

Post by sobel » 26 Apr 2008 00:19

Hi folks, I've followed this topic for quite a while and seen have many threads/links to original German military marches and songs. I would like to ask the following question, The German military have always had a strong tradition during imperial and TR times of using martial music and "soldatenlieder", sung by I assume real people at the time., My question is, post war, what was the attitude towards this type of music?

I have in my collection several Vynyl LP records from the 1960's (for those who grew up with CD's, and MP3's, and too young to remember, these were bits of plastic, with music recorded on them, and played on a record player), these were songs and marchial music played and sung by the post-war Bundeswehr and include songs such as Funkerlied, panzerlied, Prussiens Gloria etc etc.
My question is, does the modern Bundeswher, atoday, actually still encourage it's members to participate in singing these traditional songs or is it now frowned upon?
Thanks

User avatar
Panzerjäger
Member
Posts: 23
Joined: 29 Dec 2005 18:40
Location: Sweden

Post by Panzerjäger » 15 Aug 2008 23:24

Hello!

I'm looking for some information on some post-war recordings of some Fallschirmjäger-songs. They can be found on the internet, sometimes as war-time recordings. "Abgeschmiert aus hundert Metern" is one of these recordings.

Any information would be appreciated.

Felix C
Member
Posts: 997
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 16:25
Location: Miami, Fl

Any marching songs from the era still used today?

Post by Felix C » 14 Nov 2017 14:16

I understand Panzerlied predates the National Socialist era. Is it still in use?
I was listening to Erika and it has no Nat-Soc attributes. A cadence song. Still in use?
Wenn die Soldaten apparently is still used.
Well you see what I refer to.

User avatar
Ivan Ž.
Host - Music section
Posts: 7449
Joined: 05 Apr 2005 12:28
Location: Serbia

Re: Any marching songs from the era still used today?

Post by Ivan Ž. » 14 Nov 2017 15:31

Hello, Felix
Felix C wrote:I understand Panzerlied predates the National Socialist era. Is it still in use?
The "Panzerlied" does not pre-date the NS era, it was originally an NS song. See: /viewtopic.php?f=81&t=21189#p736416
As far as I know, it is still used in Chile (they even played one of its NS arrangements, see: viewtopic.php?f=81&t=209600).
Felix C wrote:I was listening to Erika and it has no Nat-Soc attributes. A cadence song. Still in use?
Correct, "Erika" is not an NS song, it's an ordinary soldiers' love song from 1938; not sure whether it's still being sung, but I remember watching a video of BW recruits singing another song by the same composer a couple of years ago: "Es ist so schön, Soldat zu sein".
Felix C wrote:Wenn die Soldaten apparently is still used.
I don't know whether "Wenn die Soldaten" is still being sung in the army, but it's a pre-1871 song anyway = not from "the era".

Cheers,
Ivan

Related topics:
German marches played in Chile today
German marches played in the UK today
Real Nazi marches played in public today

Felix C
Member
Posts: 997
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 16:25
Location: Miami, Fl

Re: Any marching songs from the era still used today?

Post by Felix C » 14 Nov 2017 16:39

Thanks. I thought Panzerlied was from the early 20s. 1923 I seem to recall. before the NS era

User avatar
Ivan Ž.
Host - Music section
Posts: 7449
Joined: 05 Apr 2005 12:28
Location: Serbia

Re: Any marching songs from the era still used today?

Post by Ivan Ž. » 14 Nov 2017 17:38

Felix C wrote:Thanks. I thought Panzerlied was from the early 20s. 1923 I seem to recall. before the NS era
No...! :) It's an early Wehrmacht cover of an NS song (the earliest known publishing date of the song: 1936; Panzertruppe formation date: 1935).

Cheers,
Ivan

Felix C
Member
Posts: 997
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 16:25
Location: Miami, Fl

Re: Any marching songs from the era still used today?

Post by Felix C » 15 Nov 2017 02:46

understood. I read the links. very thorough

User avatar
Sheldrake
Member
Posts: 3041
Joined: 28 Apr 2013 17:14
Location: London

Re: Real Nazi marches played in public today

Post by Sheldrake » 28 Mar 2021 13:39

[Split from Real Nazi marches played in public today]

Lots of modern Bundeswehr songs date back to WW2 or earlier and sung by the Wehrmacht. A FJ decorated for gallantry in Afghanistan swore it was so. The FJ songs refer to honours for 3rd Reich era victories.




[Three off-topic links have been removed by the host: two pre-war German recordings and a potentially post-war song.]
Last edited by Sheldrake on 28 Mar 2021 13:54, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Ivan Ž.
Host - Music section
Posts: 7449
Joined: 05 Apr 2005 12:28
Location: Serbia

Re: Modern recordings/use of Third Reich music

Post by Ivan Ž. » 28 Mar 2021 14:17

Hello, Sheldrake

Please try to stay on topic as is required by the forum rules and do a forum search before posting, to avoid doubling. I've moved your post to a proper topic now (the topic you initially posted it in deals with public performances of Nazi party and war campaign music); as you can see, we've already discussed Third Reich era music used by the Bundeswehr.

Cheers,
Ivan

Return to “Music of the Reich”