My "Hitler's Bayreuth" collection

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My "Hitler's Bayreuth" collection

Post by nibelung1876 » 10 Jan 2019 17:32

Hi guys,

Great that this forum has a Third Reich music thread !
So i would like to share my "Hitler's Bayreuth" collection with a small explanation about this history.
A small explanation was not easy because there is so much more to tell.
Hitler loved Wagner (as i do) but he also knew his Wagner.

Because of the size of it, please click on the link:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KW1_W ... 2KaVAONVfR

Thanks, nibelung1876

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 10 Jan 2019 19:21

Hello, nibelung1876, and :welcome:

That is certainly an impressive collection, thanks for sharing! Very interesting.

Cheers,
Ivan

PS
On page 21, at the top, correct "Hitler's Lohengrin" to "Wagner's Lohengrin".

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Post by Teppeny » 11 Jan 2019 14:03

That's some amazing information and a wonderful collection !

Best regards,
Teppeny.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 12 Jan 2019 09:49

Hi nibelung,
That is a magnificent collection indeed. The presentation is excellent and your commentary is both interesting and informative. Thank you for sharing it with us.
Cheers,
Max

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Post by nibelung1876 » 15 Jan 2019 14:36

Thanks guys !!! Took me some years to collect.
And Ivan, i meant with "Hitler's Lohengrin", "Hitlers production of Lohengrin".
But it is adjusted now ;-), thanks for the tip.

Kind regards, Glenn.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 15 Jan 2019 14:42

Cheers, Glenn.

Once again, a very nice collection (and presentation) that takes the viewer back in time like a time machine.

Ivan

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Post by P.J. Gray » 17 Jan 2019 00:18

A fascinating collection, both as a Wagnerian and enthusiast for the history of the Third Reich. Many thanks for sharing this. I have printed it out and bound it, which I certainly do not do with everything I find online. Wonderful.
„Ja, die Welt ist nur ein Leierkasten,
den unser Herrgott selber dreht.
Jeder muß nach dem Liede tanzen,
das gerade auf der Walze steht.“

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Post by nibelung1876 » 20 Jan 2019 10:03

Thanks again guys for the nice comments, much appreciated !!!! :D :D

Glenn.

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Post by nibelung1876 » 20 Jan 2019 18:30

Would like to add that despite the many Jewish Wagnerians, Wagner is still blamed by a lot of people for the Holocaust (while he died in 1883).
Yes it's true, Wagner was notoriously anti-Semitic, but in those days, almost everybody was, and not only Germans.
The dark shadow over Wagner's person and his work started with a very anti-Semitic essay of him "Das Judenthum in der Musik" (Judaïsm in Music), published in a music journal in 1850.
Later on, in 1869, published in bookform of which i have a first edition.
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Post by P.J. Gray » 21 Jan 2019 20:46

An essay I first read ten years ago in translation, the original later, but I have never seen the original edition before. My thanks again, sincerely.
„Ja, die Welt ist nur ein Leierkasten,
den unser Herrgott selber dreht.
Jeder muß nach dem Liede tanzen,
das gerade auf der Walze steht.“

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Post by nibelung1876 » 28 Jan 2019 20:41

My pleasure :thumbsup:

Some interesting footage, soldiers and Hitler arriving in Bareuth, i'm pretty sure it's in 1939.
The title of it "Wagner in Vienna" is obviously wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MuDwTRwoVI

And a 1942 newsreel with the ouverture of "Rienzi" playing in the background.
This ouverture was always used by Hitler to open the Nürnberg Party rallies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbfq3_Y8kQE

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Post by P.J. Gray » 29 Jan 2019 21:46

Wonderful!
„Ja, die Welt ist nur ein Leierkasten,
den unser Herrgott selber dreht.
Jeder muß nach dem Liede tanzen,
das gerade auf der Walze steht.“

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Post by J. Duncan » 07 Feb 2019 10:34

Impressive! Thanks for posting this. Verena is still alive too, the only one left from that time period. I’m surprised she never wrote some kind of memoir, but who knows. She may have one with instructions to publish after she dies.

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Re: My "Hitler's Bayreuth" collection

Post by nibelung1876 » 09 Feb 2019 17:52

Yes J.Duncan, Verena is still alive.
And that's why there's no release of some newly discovered footage to the general public of the Wagner family and a "friendly Hitler".
You can read about it here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Wolf.html

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Re: My "Hitler's Bayreuth" collection

Post by Ivan Ž. » 10 Feb 2019 20:52

To contribute to the topic - from one of my "Signal" magazines (issue dated 01.11.1943, article "Der Zauber von Bayreuth"):
fanfare players of the Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler" announcing the beginning of the performance at the Festspielhaus.
1943-11-01.jpg
This announcing-tradition is still alive today, however, the fanfare players nowadays don't wear uniforms anymore ;)
My personal favourite:


By the way, it was these fanfare announcements that inspired the famous Gottfried Sonntag's "Nibelungenmarsch".
Read more at: viewtopic.php?t=129087#p1128247

Cheers,
Ivan
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