Foreign marches in the German Army March Collection

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Foreign marches in the German Army March Collection

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Post by nicagaf » 20 Apr 2006, 19:08

[Split from Vor Paris]

It is interesting that in German Armeemarschsammmlung (how great idea was to make it! Respect to Friedrich-Wilhelm III!) there're a lot of Russian marches - many of them are not known today in Russia. I asked some people and they gave me this not-full list:

Armeemärsche I (langsame Märsche für Fußtruppen):

I, 18 Marsch des Arhangelogorodski Infanterie Rgt

Armeemärsche II (schnelle Märsche für Fußtruppen):

II, 14 Marsch des Sibirischen Grenadier Rgt
II, 50 Marsch vom Großfürsten Nikolaus aus Russland mitgebracht
II, 93 Marsch aus Petersburg (isn't performed now)
II, 113 Marsch aus Petersburg (the famous one)
II, 123 Marsch des Russ. Grenadier Rgt "König Friedrich Wilhelm III. von Preussen"

Armeemärsche III (berittene Truppen):

III, 48 Parademarsch Großfürstin Olga von Russland
III, 49 Geschwindmarsch Russ. Jäger Rgt Fürst von Warschau

Some Russian marches wit unknown names:
I,11/I,15/I,19/I,22/I,25/I,26 "Russischer Marsch"
II,2-7 Russischer Marsch

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 20 Apr 2006, 19:30

Excellent, thanks very much for the reply! The Germans also used the "Marsch des Leib-Garde Semenowski Regiments" (it can be even heard in Leni Riefenstahl's 1933 movie "Der Sieg des Glaubens") and "Marsch des Leib-Garde Preobraschenski Regiments".

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Post by nicagaf » 27 Apr 2006, 21:14

Excellent
Excellent is that they save these notes; problem is that in an archive where they should be (http://www.dgfmm.de/) payment for one-year membership is 40 euro. It is normal but for me international payment is unreclaimed. :oops: And I don't know how much it cost to receive copies from this archive. But these scores will be useful, because I know people from wind orchestras which can play these rare marches.
The Germans also used the "Marsch des Leib-Garde Semenowski Regiments"
Yes. As I understand they like it very much, much more than Preobrazhensky.
it can be even heard in Leni Riefenstahl's 1933 movie "Der Sieg des Glaubens"
Wow :) Amazing :)

But this list was list of marches which aren't played in Russia - so I didn't mention Preobraschenski and Semenowski marches.
II, 113 Marsch aus Petersburg (the famous one)
This march actually had another name "Suomi March" and was written by conductor of the 3rd Life-Guards Finnish Shooting Bataillon Erik Eriksson in 1836. This bataillon fullfilled a service during summer in St.-Petersburg. In St.-Petersburg the German musicians heard the march and later it was published in Germany under the name "Marsch aus Petersburg 1837". Before the revolution this march was very popular in Russia. It was one of the most favourite marches of Nickolas II and Wilhelm II.
It's in the book of good Russian CD "Vivat St.-Petersburg!" of St.-Petersburg Admiralty Navy Band, cond. Alexei Karabanov. This orchestra now performs this march. I also can send this recording.
I've seen some German CDs in the Internet, where Erik Eriksson was written as author, so Germans agree with it and it's really Russian march.

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Re: Petersburger Marsch [AM II, 113]

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Post by Fubbik » 28 Apr 2006, 17:41

Petersburger Marsch came to Germany from Russia, but the Germans state that before that it came to Russia from Germany. It was a so called "Rutscher" (gallop). Petersburger was by the way the favourite of Emperor Wilhelm II.

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Post by nicagaf » 08 May 2006, 13:36

I've link to great article about Preobraschenski March, but it's Swedish. Could anyone translate it into English? http://www.militarmusiksamfundet.com/sh ... d=preobraz
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#6

Post by pavel michalek » 05 May 2010, 16:33

[Split from Unidentified radio/newsreel music]

What is the music played in this Wochenschau (between 0:59 and 1:36).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9V8MEKVv_M

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Post by Sdt » 06 May 2010, 18:07

It sounds like a part (the end) of the march "Marsch des Hessischen Kreisregiments und des Regiments Landgraf" but I'm not sure.

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Post by pavel michalek » 06 May 2010, 18:49

Hello,

I don´t think so, but thanks anyway for try and reminding me of such nice march music. :)

Pavel

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Re: Marsch der Schweizer Garde [HM II, 125]

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Post by Auceps » 09 May 2010, 01:19

This is Marsch der Schweizer Garde (Heeresmarsch II, 125) (popular in Saxony). :milsmile: :milwink:

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Re: Marsch der Schweizer Garde [HM II, 125]

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Post by pavel michalek » 09 May 2010, 15:23

Thank you! :D

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Post by Dayse » 08 Feb 2014, 10:51

I was watching the 2014 Olympic opening ceremony and I couldn't believe my ears! Performers were marching around to a tune I knew from German military but I couldn't place it. I listened to many old songs before I came across it: it's part of a potpourri.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeBLapwcJDg

The song starts at 3:00 of the video. Please tell me the title if you know it!! And forgive me if it should be common knowledge

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Re: Petersburger Marsch [AM II, 113]

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 08 Feb 2014, 17:18

It's a Russian and German march called "Petersburger Marsch" (or "Marsch aus Petersburg").

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Re: Petersburger Marsch [AM II, 113]

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Post by Seppo Koivisto » 10 Feb 2014, 20:29

Marsch aus Petersburg was composed by Erik Eriksson of the Finnish Guards of Russian Army. In 1837 Emperor Nicholas I of Russia dedicated it to his brother in law Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia.

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Re: Petersburger Marsch [AM II, 113]

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Post by Cynical » 23 Mar 2014, 11:52

That's crazy that they would do that, especially if the two are so easily mistaken like that.

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Re: Petersburger Marsch [AM II, 113]

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 23 Mar 2014, 13:32

Cynical wrote:That's crazy that they would do that, especially if the two are so easily mistaken like that.
I actually don't really understand what did you mean by "if the two are so easily mistaken like that", but, in any case, nothing's crazy there, it's an old and always popular Russian and German march.

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