National anthems of Germany

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National anthems of Germany

Post by Benoit Douville » 22 Jul 2002 05:40

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When exactly did they changed the Horst Wessel Lied for the actual German national anthem?

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Post by HaEn » 23 Jul 2002 05:00

Benoit Douville wrote:When exactly did they changed the Horst Wessel Lied for the actual German national anthem?
They didn't. The Horst Wessel Lied was sung AFTER the national anthem. i.e. in tandem.
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Post by varjag » 23 Jul 2002 13:28

During WW 2 the 'Deutschlandsender' (German Radio) at the close of the broadcast used to play both. I've forgotten which came first, but think it was the Deutschlandlied (Deutschland über alles) followed by the HW-Lied - but it could have been the other way around. There's nothing exceptional about this. Radio Moscow on all it's foreign broadcasts played the Sovietski Soyuz at close of transmission and in certain languages also the 'Internationale' to boost the hopes of the toiling jillions that were assumed,listened to the 'promise of marxism' from His Master's Voice in faraway MOCKBA.

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Post by Smert-Fashistam » 18 Aug 2002 22:40

I am curious as to what was the main Nazi germany, Third Reich music theme/anthem and if there is one - where can I find words, mp3 file of it

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Post by Kriegflugzeug » 19 Aug 2002 01:01

It's not really the "Nazi Germany theme song". It's the German National Anthem, entitled "Deutschlandlied". There are many versions, but during the war Hitler added a song on to the end glorifying the Reich.

One interesting aspect of the national anthem is the fact that Germany still uses it as their national anthem. The ending song, of course, was omitted.

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Post by Romulus » 19 Aug 2002 01:55

wasnt the horst wessel lied the NSDAP anthem?

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Post by Heinz23 » 28 Aug 2002 17:43

There were actually two national anthems in Third Reich. The first one was of course "Lied der Deutschen", and the second one, "Horst Wessel Lied", was sung after the first one.

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Post by ozs86 » 12 Nov 2002 12:14

it changed after ww1 belt-etsch and maas memmel were not present anymore....

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Post by Samantha » 13 Nov 2002 09:03

I believe in Germany now that it's the /third/ verse which is sung as the national anthem. Starts off "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" and doesn't say anything about Uber Alles :-D

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Post by HaEn » 13 Nov 2002 21:01

How quickly we forget. This issue has been on this, and other forums several times now. The German national anthem of WWII was "Deutschlandlied" (Deutschland, Deutschland über Alles), unoficially followed by the first verse of the Horst Wessel song. (Die Fahne hoch !).
b.t.w. Deutschland über Alles, does not mean Germany in charge of everything. But a patriotic feeling of "Germany you are the tops". Just another thought. (getting a headache from all that thinking) :wink: HN.

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Post by John W » 05 Jan 2003 07:32

Didn't the Germans have to change "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" after the war or give it up all together?

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Post by DarExc » 05 Jan 2003 09:19

Correct, there is no more Deutschland über alles. Please do get these stunes posted

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Post by Nagelfar » 05 Jan 2003 09:28

I thought 'Deutschland über alles' was still the national anthem? infact I assumed it wasnt, but germans online assured me it was still used as the anthem and convinced me otherwise...


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Post by Bill Medland » 05 Jan 2003 13:31

The national anthem (Deutschland über alles) was banned in 1945, and the post war German government just managed to keep it, although only the third verse was allowed. The problem lies with the translation of "über alles" or "above all", it was meant in a peaceful sense, like love your country above all else, but the Allied Leaders mistook it for the military meaning, Germany above all, and smash the others! Well, "Deutschland über alles" can be obtained on CD in Germany at long last after almost 60 years.


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Post by qristian » 27 Aug 2004 22:54

during the war the allies, as a part of their propaganda campaign, they say the deutschland deutschland über alles song meant that germans were better than other people and races and that germany should go to war to expand their reich on the cost of "subhumans" -germany germany over all-
but the song was made in the 17-1800 and that was when all the states like bavaria and sachsen and preussia was connecting to make òne german state therby -germany germany instead of many states where the people was the same- germany germany above something else

but still the pathetic germans wont dare to say anything about the many hidden facts of ww2 or anything positive about their history

i just needed to say that

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