Hermann Müller-John & Musikkorps der Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler"
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Thank you for the fast reply Pavel.pavel michalek wrote:I think you´re right. His garrison cap is an old SS-VT type and I think he has bevelled old Prussian style lower pockets.
Has anyone found a possible name of this NCO maybe? I know simple NCOs are not as known as many SS officers today, but he is a bandleader in a probably most researched SS unit, so I'm hoping his name might have been mentioned somewhere (but I'm referring only to reliable documents)...
Thanks again,
Ivan
A little bit tiny ...Auceps wrote: Excuse me, but does anyone have any more pictures of Leibstandarte-SS Musikkorps, escpecially in their black uniform?
Source: http://balsi.de/
The above photo was copied from Bunge's book "Musik in der Waffen-SS". You can find a couple more interesting MK LSSAH pics in the same book.
Some more photos in black uniforms, only tankmen's this time Charleroi, April 1944.
Source: http://pallas.cegesoma.be/
Cheers,
Ivan
Some more photos in black uniforms, only tankmen's this time Charleroi, April 1944.
Source: http://pallas.cegesoma.be/
Cheers,
Ivan
Several posts dealing with war crimes were split off into a new thread entitled "Musikkorps Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler in Poland".
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A cropped picture of Hermann Müller-John leading his band at Nürnberg Rally on 5 September 1938...
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[Files updated in Aug. 2020 by the host, Ivan Ž.]
Complete picture:
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The murder of 50 Jews in Poland in 1939 by the band master of the LSSAH Müller-John is detailed in Rupert Butler’s book (SS-Leibstandarte: The History of the First SS Division 1933-45, page 50). Butler states that Müller-John was reprieved from punishment on the orders of Adolf Hitler. Butler also states that Müller-John committed suicide with his family in the last days of the war.
In 1944 a member of the LSSAH (Jakob Hanreich) was captured in Normandy, he was asked about war crimes of the LSSAH. Hanreich related: ‘Between 20th and 25th of September 39, at least 50 Jews were murdered by the Music Pl of the L.S. in the area of Burzeum, about 3 kms west of Warsaw. The order for the atrocity was given by the then Obermusikmeister of the music Pl, Müller-John. Those to be murdered had to dig their graves first, were then put in front of it and shot……’.(TS26/856 page 231).
This was also confirmed by a member of the LSSAH (Otto Sierk) to his interrogators in Nov 44. He stated that Müller-John was 'acquitted by order of the then SS-Ogruf. Sepp Dietrich' (WO208/3650).
In 1944 a member of the LSSAH (Jakob Hanreich) was captured in Normandy, he was asked about war crimes of the LSSAH. Hanreich related: ‘Between 20th and 25th of September 39, at least 50 Jews were murdered by the Music Pl of the L.S. in the area of Burzeum, about 3 kms west of Warsaw. The order for the atrocity was given by the then Obermusikmeister of the music Pl, Müller-John. Those to be murdered had to dig their graves first, were then put in front of it and shot……’.(TS26/856 page 231).
This was also confirmed by a member of the LSSAH (Otto Sierk) to his interrogators in Nov 44. He stated that Müller-John was 'acquitted by order of the then SS-Ogruf. Sepp Dietrich' (WO208/3650).
Hi all,
I read once somewhere that Hermann Müller-John would have married a certain Frau John and he would have affixed her name to his. Whether this is true or not, I do not know. And if it is the case, had she British or American origins ? Maybe someone can confirm ?
Nevertheless, I have always been wondering what the correct pronunciation for his name should be. I mean how did German people pronounce his name at the time ? Should it be the “german” pronunciation [mylǝrjo:n] or the « english » pronunciation [mylǝrdȝɔn] ?
Maiko
I read once somewhere that Hermann Müller-John would have married a certain Frau John and he would have affixed her name to his. Whether this is true or not, I do not know. And if it is the case, had she British or American origins ? Maybe someone can confirm ?
Nevertheless, I have always been wondering what the correct pronunciation for his name should be. I mean how did German people pronounce his name at the time ? Should it be the “german” pronunciation [mylǝrjo:n] or the « english » pronunciation [mylǝrdȝɔn] ?
Maiko