Hermann Müller-John & Musikkorps der Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler"

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Post by Fallersleben » 22 May 2016, 15:41

From https://www.sz-photo.de/
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Konzert einer SS Blaskapelle in einem Park. Standkonzert einer SS Kapelle in einem Park (undatierte Aufnahme).

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Post by Mirafone » 25 May 2016, 02:45

Hi-
I just acquired this silver BBb tuba:
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... a55xx.jpeg
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... rgpho.jpeg
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... lnpmf.jpeg
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... 2bkd7.jpeg
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... flbpg.jpeg

It is from the Musikkorps der Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler. '44' on the bell garland/kranz, and also is the maker/distributor 'Wunderlich.' I am a tuba player/collector, and I did free up all the slides and valves ( except the 2nd slide), cleaned the valves, and it plays quite nice. I am having my repairman free the second slide, align rotors, and do some dent work. I did polish the instrument up some, and am looking to do research on the MK LSSAH. Would love to acquire a band program of the MK LSSAH.

Just joined the forum-my first post.

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Mark
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 25 May 2016, 10:28

Hello, Mark, and :welcome:

A great item, thanks very much for sharing! :thumbsup:

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Post by Mirafone » 30 May 2016, 06:06

Hi-
A question for everyone. Is the 'Musikkorps der Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler' the same band as the 'Musikkorps der SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler?' I just saw a program with the 'Musikkorps der SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler' that lists Hermann Müller-John as conductor. Knowing, that for the most past, Müller-John was the MK LSSAH conductor, is the MK LSSAH the same as the MK Panzergrenadier-Division LSSAH? Or was the MK Panzergrenadier-Division LSSAH a different band?
Thank you for any help you can provide!
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Mirafone

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 30 May 2016, 07:17

Hello, Mark

First of all, it is "Panzer" [Armour, Armoured], not "Panther" :) I've corrected the spelling in your post now. Yes, it is the same band. Leibstandarte, as other units, changed over the years.

From http://www.axishistory.com/axis-nations ... olf-hitler
Axis History wrote:Lineage

SS-Stabswache Berlin (Mar 1933 - May 1933)
SS-Sonderkommando Zossen (May 1933 - Sep 1933)
Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler (Sep 1933 - Dec 1934)
Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler (mot) (Dec 1934 - July 1942)
SS-Division (mot) LSSAH (July 1942 - Nov 1942)
SS-Panzergrenadier-Division LSSAH (Nov 1942 - Oct 1943)
1. SS-Panzer-Division LSSAH (Oct 1943 - May 1945)
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Post by Mirafone » 30 May 2016, 12:48

Ivan-
I knew you would know-thank you!!!!! :thumbsup: And thanks for correcting my typo.
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Post by Mirafone » 31 May 2016, 03:52

Hi-
Here is the program booklet I just acquired this evening. It is 8 pages, and measures 3 3/4" by 5 1/2" ( 9 by 14 cm).
Groß-Konzert des Musikkorps der SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Division “Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler"
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... aemvt.jpeg
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... rmnqr.jpeg
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... zgziz.jpeg
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... eghis.jpeg

Will go nicely with the tuba for display.

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Mirafone

P.S. Tuba is at my instrument repairman for dent removal, valve alignment, etc. Will shortly be ready for playing demonstrations.

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Post by Arto O » 05 Jun 2016, 21:34

A nice picture of two members of the Musikkorps. Except when I look the kid, it makes me to remember "chuqui" from the movie Child´s play. :D

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SS-Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler bei einem Militärkonzert, 1937. Bei einem öffentlichen Militärkonzert der SS Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler in Berlin posiert ein SS Mann mit einem kleinen Jungen. Die SS sammelte hier f​ür das Winterhilfswerk, WHW.

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Post by Mirafone » 18 Jun 2016, 17:55

Hi-
Two images from Dr. Peter Panoff's book 'Militar-Musik':
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... u8tkg.jpeg
Above: Muller-John of the MK LSSAH
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... wbbpr.jpeg
Above: The 'Turkish Crescent/'Jingling Johnny' of the MK LSSAH

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Post by Mirafone » 18 Jun 2016, 19:38

Hi-
While researching the MK LSSAH, I have located a few other musical instruments (besides my tuba) that are known to exist (in other collections) from the band:
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... zlzbv.jpeg
Above: rotary valve trumpet from the band
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... rpost.jpeg
Above: Glockenspiel/Xylophone from the band
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... ldv7a.jpeg
Above: Trombone from the band
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10 ... 3sc9d.jpeg
Above: French Horn from the band

Hopefully, more will turn up...

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Mirafone

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Last edited by Mirafone on 01 Jul 2016, 03:48, edited 4 times in total.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 01 Jul 2016, 00:31

Mirafone wrote:A quick demo of the tuba from the MK LSSAH...
:thumbsup: Thanks for sharing (other files too! sorry, not much time for participating lately, but I'm trying to follow the topics as much as I can)

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Post by Mirafone » 06 Jul 2016, 01:17

Mirafone wrote:Hi-
While researching the MK LSSAH, I have located a few other musical instruments (besides my tuba) that are known to exist (in other collections) from the band:
Hi-
I finally got ahold of the owner of the above trumpet. His dad was in WWII and brought it back with him. Here is the story...
Here is some more info you can have concerning my trumpet.

My father was a combat engineer in the 42nd Rainbow Division during WWII. The battalion was divided in half in Austria. One group was up stream building a fake bridge for troops to cross and making the German troops think that was the place for the main confrontation. Meanwhile, the other group of which my dad was in, was secretly building a pontoon bridge for the heavy equipment to cross and attack the Germans from behind.

They were almost finished when the Musikkorps approached a shed where their instruments were stored. Conflict began and lasted for almost 3 days. Many of the corps members were killed and others ran from the area. After the bridge was completed, my dad and fellow engineers found instruments scattered on the ground with the dead troops. Being my dad was a musician, he picked up some of the instruments and gave them to his buddies. He kept the trumpet and sent it home (St. Louis, Mo. USA).

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Mirafone

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Post by Fallersleben » 06 Jul 2016, 01:35

Interesting story. He can give us a date?

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Post by Mirafone » 06 Jul 2016, 13:47

Hi-
I will ask him. He is 76 now and in bad health. He might be putting the trumpet up for sale too...

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Mirafone

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