Music popular in the Third Reich

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Music popular in the Third Reich

Post by Kaan Caglar » 14 Jul 2003 21:00

It may be discussed before(i'm sorry if it is) but i'm curious about the music listened by the nazis, i watched a film i guess it was Bruce Willis' Hart's War, and the german general loved to listen to classic jazz... Anyway then i learned that jazz was forbidden in Germany because it is "black peoples music ", but then i saw a nazi poster saying "Pop or Jazz?,Enemy or Mother?,Blood or Gold?,Bolshevizm or Nazizm", you see the ones on the right sides are to be chosen.. So i'm confused. Do you know any book,site,document telling what the germans liked most?? I like Jazz thats why i'm curious this much :) :)

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Post by Ebusitanus » 15 Jul 2003 12:36

There was plenty more that was listened by the Landser besides march music. I have right beside me a CD from a Rosita Serrano ("Die Chilenishen Nachtigall"), a Chilean singer that was very popular in Germany in the late 30´. My grandfather listened to her back then and still has an old record he sometimes plays for old times sake. Then you have swedish Leander and many more..ridiculous to think that German youth only enjoyed with march music.

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Post by HaEn » 16 Jul 2003 00:17

Another singer that was very much liked: Lale Andersen; also Zarah Leander. Next, rhytmic music was NOT forbidden; there were a numer of bands playing on the radio. Just the American style (misnamed "negroid") was not allowed. And of course "Hava na gila hava" was out of the question :lol: HN

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Post by PAK » 16 Jul 2003 10:07

My grandfather used to listen to jazz, he always laughs when he tells me the stories, as far as this music was forbidden someone had to guard the door and watch out for gestapos, btw my grandmother was the guard and that's the way hwo they met, anyways, the gestapo men always weared a dark coat so everybody who wanted to join the club had to not wear a coat and tada exposing the gestapo was no problem :)
They never got caught. ;)

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Post by Kaan Caglar » 16 Jul 2003 20:09

PAK wrote:My grandfather used to listen to jazz, he always laughs when he tells me the stories, as far as this music was forbidden someone had to guard the door and watch out for gestapos, btw my grandmother was the guard and that's the way hwo they met, anyways, the gestapo men always weared a dark coat so everybody who wanted to join the club had to not wear a coat and tada exposing the gestapo was no problem :)
They never got caught. ;)

:) :)
Forbidding a kind of music is so silly!!

Anyway i heard in Ardennes at 8:00 the whole germans stop talking in trenches and holes, and listen to the radio because everynight at 8:00 Lili Marleen was sang by a singer on the raido

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Post by amon969 » 18 Jul 2003 16:19

Hitler for example liked Classical Music and was a great Wagner-Fan. Wagners arrangements often sound like war :-) Hitler´s Butler said in an intereview he thought Marlene Dietrich was the greatest singer on earth - but the nazis had problems with her because she left germany and regrets the offers of Goebbels because she could have been the archetype of a aryan Singer. In the late 30´s she was en envy because he made propaganda with US-Soldiers and a lot of germans (even until now) have problems with her attitude. The biggest Stars during the Nazi-Era were Zarah Leander (Ich weiss, es wird einmal ein Wunder geschehen - Nina Hagen covered it in the laate 80´s) and singing actors like Heinz Rühmann ( Die 3 von der Tankstelle), Hans Albers (Grosse Freiheit Nr 7) etc. and this musical-kind "light-music" and ”Operette" style.

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Post by Shaun Knapp » 20 Apr 2004 13:06

Two parts to my question:

Firstly, who were the German music 'stars' between 1933 - 45.

Secondly, does anyone know if one can purchase a compilation CD of the above or can anyone reccomend relevant alternatives?

Many thanks

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Post by Johnny » 20 Apr 2004 13:37

If we are discussing pure mega-stars I'd mention the two obvious: Zarah Leander and Marlene Dietrich (eatleast untill she got her american citizenship in 1937).

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Post by Lobscouse » 21 Apr 2004 02:58

Popular music singers I am most familiar with are;
Lale Andersen (most famously for Lili Marleen)
Rudi Schuricke
Rene Carol
Hans Albers.

I was introduced to their songs in the early fifties.

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Post by Geli » 21 Apr 2004 05:09

Some German radio hits:

Ein Lied geht um die Welt, Joseph Schmitz 1933
Ich liebe dich und kenn' dich nicht, Magda Schneider/Willi Forst 1934
Regentropfen, Orchester Ludwig Rüth & die Metropol Vocalisten, 1935
Wenn ich vergnügt bin, muss ich singen, Peter Igelhoff & die Goldene Sieben 1936
Jowohl, meine Herr'n, Heinz Rühmann & Hans Albers 1937
Der Wind hat mir ein Lied erzählt, Zarah Leander 1938
Musik! Musik! Musik!, Wilfried Sommer & Otto Stenzel 1939
Wenn du einmal ein Mädel magst, Ilse Werner 1940
Man müsste Klavier spielen können, Johannes Heesters 1941
Es klopft mein Herz bum-bum!, Marlene Mathan & Eugen Wolff 1942
Frauen sind keine Engel, Margot Hielscher 1943
In der Nacht ist der Mensch nicht gern alleine, Marika Rökk 1944

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Post by Shaun Knapp » 21 Apr 2004 15:49

Many thanks for your replies - most useful and helpful.

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Post by Fubbik » 24 Aug 2004 14:05

Jan Kiepura was very popular.

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Post by Fubbik » 24 Aug 2004 15:35

The Germans were like any other people, there was a multitude of taste. Understandably, the music of the enemy (negro jazz that is) was forbidden. We can´t have people listen to the enemy, can we?

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Post by waldorf » 08 Jan 2005 23:31

I was curious to know what bands and singers were popular in Germany underneath Hitler's rule? In the U.S. we had Benny Goodman, the Andrew's Sisters, Bing Crosby, Irving Berlin, Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, etc. In my readings though, I have never come across any types of German entertainment except for music the Nazi's banned. I did come across accounts that Hitler was a big fan of Richard Wagner.

Also another question. How did Nazi Germany handle music by Jewish composers such as Mendelssohn (sp?) or classical composers from either already occuppied countries or countries they eventually were at war with? Examples like Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, Chopan, Debussy, etc. Would Germans be able to hear these composers on German radio or attain records, or were these classical composers banned as well?

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Post by Doggowitz » 09 Jan 2005 01:57

1.No Music by Mendelssohn or any other Jewish Composer were forbidden.
I don't know about the Other (Slavic) Composrers, But I guess some of them were forbidden too becuase the Music was "entartet" and too modern.

2.In Germany Popular Musicians: Zarah Leander (she once held a Concert, and because she was so tall, the girls in the background were Men from the LSSAH who dresed as Woman), Lale Andersen, Richard Strauss,Leon Furtwängler, Hans Albers, Heinz Rühmann (He was an actor, but I'm not sure whether he was a cabaret singer too), Karl Schwedler, and many more, I'm just a bit too tired to think...

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