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Das Lied der Luft-Waffen-Helfer

Post by Claymore » 23 Aug 2006 23:12

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Re: Das Lied der Luft-Waffen-Helfer

Post by Ivan Ž. » 02 Sep 2006 13:27

First time I hear about that song 8O Thank you very much for posting! (Added to the list of works.)

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Post by Michael Jonas » 02 Sep 2006 21:39

Hi there,

This is a perfect post for a Reichsarbeitsdienst specialist. Thank you very much for the pictures.

After the war, Niel was a leader of a dance orchestra - "Tanzkapelle" in northern Germany Niedersachsen.
He played every weekend for dance with his 20 musicians.
I have a lot of pictures - only in paper. I need time to scan a sample.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 05 Sep 2006 11:58

Hello, Michael, and thank you very much for your post.

Please do scan a few postwar photos of Niel! :)

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Post by Michael Jonas » 06 Sep 2006 12:17

Hi Ivan,

I will search in my collection - in this moment I have only a hunch. I own more than 80.000 RAD pictures.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 14 Sep 2006 20:11

Ivan Ž. wrote: Die Deutsche Wochenschau 531, released on 6 November 1940.
Niel and the Reichsmusikzug were filmed holding a concert for wounded Italian soldiers in a hospital in Rome (Oct. 1940).
Used as soundtrack in the report was a radio (studio) recording of Niel's "Erika".
A few screenshots from this newsreel:
DW 531a.jpg
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 15 Sep 2006 09:23

Ivan Ž. wrote: Sechs Tage Heimaturlaub (movie), released on 3 October 1941.
Niel and the Reichsmusikzug were filmed playing Niel's "Erika", which was sung by the audience.
A few screenshots from this movie:
SechsTageHeimaturlaub1941b.jpg
SechsTageHeimaturlaub1941c.jpg
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Post by behemoth » 02 Nov 2006 08:02

I just found this: Deutsches Lied.

The referenced site is very good and deserves a visit if you haven't done so already.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 02 Nov 2006 14:36

Yes, it's the best source for lyrics of old German songs on the internet, I know it well :)

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Post by John P. Doyle » 12 Nov 2006 02:47

It's great to read all these experts about Herms Niel - I feel I know nothing compared to you all!

One song which may have been missed is: "Wenn wir so marschieren" (Morgens durch das Lagertor)?

Does anyone have the text of "Kleine Elisabeth - schöne Elisabeth"?

And the song "Wo bist du, Deutschland, schönstes Land der Erde?": is this the song I know as "Deutschland, wir grüßen dich"? I have a recording sung in a very deep, emotional voice. It includes something about "Russlands Samovare" (My German is not good!). Does anyone have the text of this?

Best wishes to you all.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 12 Nov 2006 09:37

Hello, John!

1) "Wenn wir so marschieren" is in the list.

2) Yes, it's the same song. "Russlands Samovare" is: "Uns hält kein Traum von Russlands Samowaren..."

3) "Kleine Elisabeth - schöne Elisabeth!" lyrics:



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Heut' stechen wir ins blaue Meer

Post by Claymore » 03 Jan 2007 17:10

...for Ivan...
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Re: List of works

Post by Sdt » 09 Jan 2007 14:23

"Mein schönes Fuldatal" is also from Niel. I don't know if he wrote lyrics or composed the music (or both ?). Date is probably late thirties.

Info comes from the CD "Das Grammophon" - Folge 6.

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Re: List of works

Post by behemoth » 05 Feb 2007 03:18

Yet another piece of Niel history, from Sound Matters - Essays on the Acoustics of German Culture by Lutz P Koepnick and Nora M. Alter: Niel also composed the "Krimfanfare" in 1944 which he described as a "Durchaltefanfare" or "Fanfare of Perserverence" for German troops surrounded on the Crimean peninsula. See pp. 72-3 of the referenced work.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 05 Feb 2007 17:32

Thanks to Claymore for another excellent songcard, and to Thomas & Dave for the additions! (List of works updated.)

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