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Die blonde Rie

Post by Auceps » 01 May 2020 23:02

It seems that 'Die blonde Rie (In Holland steht, aus Klinkerstein)' had also the fourth strophe:
4. Schon wandern fröhlich wir durch's Land,
die Dünen sind nicht weit.
Dort grüßt der stille, weiße Strand.
Der sah uns oft zu zweit.

Hoch steht der Mond am Himmel.
Es lacht sein blank Gesicht.
Ins brandende Getümmel
wirft er sein Licht vom Himmel

hier auf uns beide
in Sand und Heide.
Der gute Mond verrät's ja nicht,
ja, ja, der gute Mond verrät's ja nicht!
And it seems that originally Hartmann didn't mean any 'sexual' subtext for the song, but was merely inspired by a Dutch neighbour child near his barracks in Haarlem, whom he made a pen friend with his own daughter in Germany.

Source: Fahnenbruck, Laura, Ein(ver)nehmen - Sexualität und Alltag von Wehrmachtsoldaten in den besetzten Niederlanden, Göttingen, 2018, S. 187 [Google Books].

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Re: Die blonde Rie

Post by Ivan Ž. » 02 May 2020 11:54

Correct, the song originally had four strophes (I've corrected some minor bits in the lyrics you posted). It looks like the author may have been in touch with the lyricist's son, who shared a similar story with me a decade ago (a very nice gentleman, by the way). Or with the aforementioned lyricist's daughter, of whom I haven't heard (Mr Hartmann didn't mention her, nor anyone being pen friends with Maria/Rie).

Herms Niel and "Die blonde Rie", a.k.a. "Hollandlied", were heavily covered by the Dutch press at the time. The song was meant to be as popular among the Dutch people as "Erika" was in Germany. Niel held several concerts in the Netherlands from 27 April to 3 May 1942, performing "Die blonde Rie" for the first time. He recorded the song for the Grammophon six days later (9 May 1942).

One of the earliest mentions of the song, including its lyrics, from Deutsche Zeitung in den Niederlanden, 08.03.1942, p. 6
Deutsche Zeitung in den Niederlanden 1942-03-08 S-6.jpg

An announcement for Niel's concert tour & premiere of "Die blonde Rie" from Deutsche Zeitung in den Niederlanden, 26.04.1942, p. 4
Deutsche Zeitung in den Niederlanden 1942-04-26 S-4.jpg

Lyrics, some photos and additional info in Dutch from Cinema & Theater, 15.05.1942, pp. 18-19
Cinema & Theater 1942-05-15 S-18-19.jpg

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Re: Die blonde Rie

Post by Auceps » 03 May 2020 18:33

Thanks for the additional infos, Ivan! :)

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 03 May 2020 18:48

Cheers ;) Speaking of Niel's concert tours in the Netherlands...

A concert for Luftwaffe troops (Kraftfahr-Ausbildungsstelle der Fliegertruppe Nr. 12) in Amsterdam:

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Post by Auceps » 07 May 2020 02:34

And again thank you for the great photos! :)

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Post by Fallersleben » 19 Jul 2020 19:15

From AKH, M 139
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Post by Fallersleben » 19 Jul 2020 19:23

Also from AKH, M 139
AKH M-139g.jpg
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Post by Fallersleben » 19 Jul 2020 20:48

From https://lale-andersen.de/
HN3.jpg
Solang' wir frohe Lieder singen,
kann uns kein Teufel niederzwingen.
Und schlägt der Frack auch Falten;
wir bleiben doch die Alten... (Herms Niel)


Is that part of a (known) song?
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 21 Jul 2020 17:59

Thanks for the additional photos/videos :)
Fallersleben wrote:
19 Jul 2020 20:48
Solang' wir frohe Lieder singen,
kann uns kein Teufel niederzwingen.
Und schlägt der Frack auch Falten;
wir bleiben doch die Alten... (Herms Niel)


Is that part of a (known) song?
I don't think it's part of a song, but I can't be sure. The text/scan itself originates from Goedecke & Krug's book "Wir beginnen das Wunschkonzert für die Wehrmacht", p. 215 (compare with the scan below). There are short handwritten texts by various Wunschkonzert performers in the book, besides Niel's. I assume they were given to the authors or their associates.

HNt.jpg
As you may have noticed, the notes above Niel's signature are of the refrain of his biggest wartime hit, the "Matrosenlied"; he also wrote the lyrics below them: "...denn wir fah-ren ge-gen Engel-land..."

As we could see in the previously posted examples, he often used his "denn wir fahren" notes as part of his autograph in the early 1940s:

HNt2.jpg
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HNt4.jpg

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Post by Fallersleben » 26 Jul 2020 20:46

From https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/
1988-525-50.jpg
Herms Niel dirigiert die Erstaufführung eines neuen Marsches. Den Arbeitsmännern von Rschew gewidmet - ein neuer RAD-Marsch von Herms Niel erlebte seine begeisterte Erstaufführung. (10.04.1943)
Photographer: Wöhr
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 18 Aug 2020 18:50

From the same source (no caption):
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Re: Es blüht ein Röselein

Post by Alfered Hohmann » 20 Aug 2020 14:53

@Fallersleben, I just saw your message :) viewtopic.php?f=81&t=94321&start=210#p2163397

Awwww! Thank you so much!

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 20 Aug 2020 15:03

A pre-1941 portrait photo (Niel grew moustache in 1940), from https://www.sz-photo.de/
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 20 Aug 2020 15:08

A photo from an unknown concert (from the same source):
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 22 Aug 2020 23:59

Niel giving autographs to Luftwaffe and SS soldiers (from the same source):
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