My heritage items from an uboat commander

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My heritage items from an uboat commander

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Post by Tom32 » 02 Apr 2015, 14:19

As my first post I'll show you the mainly badge heritage from an Oblt. z. S. and later uboat commander .
He was on different boats , mainly on U 103 / Obstrm. in the first war years, later , to the end of the war , he got himself the command of an E-type uboat XXIII class . This boat was sunk in Jan. 1946 , by Operation Deadlight; he went to POW, after that - from 1950 - 1956 - he and other war mates were working by the 6931 Labor Service .
In 1959 he died in an age of only 44 .

In this heritage from him ( I received in start of the 90th directly from the family ) there are a few rare items beside and a little paperwork , also with orig Signatures fom F. Ruge - Viz.- Admiral - KC winner; Major Wilhelm Wagner KC and DKIG winner ... sad that are no more docs from him ...this was all I could get )

( single pics of the items I may set, if someone want )
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Post by Tom32 » 02 Apr 2015, 21:10

The 2. pattern frontclasp in bronze
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Re: My heritage items from an uboat commander

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Post by Tom32 » 02 Apr 2015, 21:14

The U- Schule Wappen
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Re: My heritage items from an uboat commander

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Post by John G. » 03 Apr 2015, 11:24

Tom32,
Would you post good photos of the three U-Boat badges.....front & back..... these appear to be "bronze, silver, Gold" which "doesn't ring true" (these may be later additions)... but need to see much better pictures of these. The U-Boat clasp appears to be a nice bronze original.... and everything else appears to be "what it's supposed to be.... including the 57 U-boat Badge miniture".

Wonderful grouping regardless.... you are a lucky guy.
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Post by Tom32 » 03 Apr 2015, 13:28

I only present something when i'm sure that are orig items. The colour of the bagdes looked different during different angles when photographing.
Here are shown: left to the right
a Juncker
a S & L
and a very rare Otto Schickle - but in the hollow version.

Here is the simplest way to look ( if its allowed to set links inside here ) : http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... p?t=773760.
There you'll see all items very large and with comments.
( the first pics are bad , after that it becomes better ones .)

Yesterday I started to set a few pics more here inside but the ones are to big s I had to minimize at first.
So your answer was to quick. :D

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Post by Tom32 » 03 Apr 2015, 14:59

Here the hollow O. Schickle - reverse


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and the front

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all items are uncleaned, so in orig condition received from the former owner / family !!

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Post by Tom32 » 03 Apr 2015, 15:48

The Juncker with the "missing flag"

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and the Steinhauer & Lueck

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in orig. the colour is more as zinc/grey .. not so shiny silver as seen on the first pic with all items together!

The only post-war piece is the mini uboat warbadge sticker ; its a 57er vers. from Fahnen Fleck/ Hamburg


The EK II = (93) R. Simm & Söhne , Gablonz - with short ribbon
The EK I = B.H. Mayer ( the unmarked vers. !! )

The buttons are all marked ( 1935, 1939,1940 and also some diff. manufacturers)

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Post by Tom32 » 04 Apr 2015, 13:29

Dagger holder, Portepee a.o.
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Post by Tom32 » 04 Apr 2015, 16:31

Here the letter of condolence from Vize-Admiral Friedrich Ruge ( KC winner ) with his orig. signature 1959 to the widdow .

and the farewell gift with orig signature ( 2 x ) from Major Wilhelm Wagner ( RK & DKiG winner ) also later Oberst in the Bundeswehr
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Post by Tom32 » 06 Apr 2015, 18:24

Now it's time, I also owned this items for over 20years now- the complete Nachlass ( in the next time ) will go into the " For Sale & Wanted" thread . Should be too sad to sell all items with history behind as single ones .
So if anyone is interested, please feel free to ask for any other infos.

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Re: My heritage items from an uboat commander

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Post by William Kramer » 16 Apr 2015, 17:50

Top quality stuff. That Schickle U-Boat badge is RARE!

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Post by Tom32 » 18 May 2015, 23:16

Thanks William...and you're right where did you find one of the hollow Otto Schickle sub badge ...and if yes , for which price .
And also not all the collectors know this kind of sub badge .

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Re: My heritage items from an uboat commander

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Post by Tom32 » 04 Jun 2016, 19:05

Little Update to one of the last commanders of the " new " U-Boat class XXIII - U 2351

- in 1945 he went as POW to Featherstone Park Camp, Camp 18 , here he was released in 1950
- after returning to Germany he served from 18.08.1950 - 04.04.1956 in the 6931 Labor Service Center / US Army
- from 1956 and up to 03.1959 , at least he served in the Bundesmarine as a Kapitänleutnant and Standortkommandeur in Bremerhaven. ( - possible they promoted him posthum because by his new clothes I found only the new the shoulder straps for an Oblt. )

He died ( after a long illness ) at the 27.03.1959 in Bremerhaven

( the last dates I got out of his death notice , out of the orig newspaper from 03-1959; so with only 43 years .
it's sad, only 2 death notices from him - one from the family and one from the Bundesmarine wehrbereich II/ Siewert ).

I'll put some images inside , so his case can be close.

How I wrote at the start of this thread, I owned his heritage out of the 90th , and over the years I " forgot" this suitcase after storing it in an separate room. :(
the already shown things from his heritage are sold long ago ...but yesterday I " found" the rest of his things in his old military suitcase out of the time , in this were also the newspaper(s),
his Unterschnallgürtel for the dagger holder
his pokal from the G.F.E Lehrgang
his 3 different large Rucksäcke , out of the war time and POW time , because 2 are "big" stamped , one with his full name and POW number : B 138711 from Featherstone Park Camp

his Colani heavy stuff marine greatcoat - but dated 1956 ( the first pattern postwar )
his 2 new white Jackets / new , dated 1959
his white trousers / new, dated 1959
these last two items he must be had ordered before his death - for his job in the Bundesmarine.

( pictures are coming tomorrow )

So the story of an U-Boat man ended , who survided the complete war time ( on different and also well known boats )

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Re: My heritage items from an uboat commander

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Post by Tom32 » 05 Jun 2016, 17:49

Little correction:

his Colani heavy stuff marine greatcoat - but dated 1956 ( the first pattern postwar )
his 2 new white Jackets / 1 new , 1 seems as short used dated 1959 ---> 1956
his white trousers / new, dated 1959---> 1956

the pokal is to see in the u-Boat thread " G.F.E. Lehrgang "
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Re: My heritage items from an uboat commander

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Post by Tom32 » 05 Jun 2016, 17:53

his old marine Koffer / suitcase
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