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B & NL Luftwaffe pilots badge

Post by WOLFSLAIRS » 01 Aug 2015 08:42

Hello forum members.

Please may I kindly ask for your views on my B&NL Pilots badge, is it an Original, or is it a Fake!

Thank you for any help you can give to me.

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Les.
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Re: B & NL Luftwaffe pilots badge

Post by WOLFSLAIRS » 01 Aug 2015 08:45

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Re: B & NL Luftwaffe pilots badge

Post by WOLFSLAIRS » 01 Aug 2015 08:47

THREE
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Re: B & NL Luftwaffe pilots badge

Post by John G. » 02 Aug 2015 11:00

Using Previtera's Vol. 2 (Luftwaffe) of Combat Badges of the Third Reich as a comparison (B&NL example) there are slight differances ... mainly the catch seems differant, hinge & pin possibly (?), too, but there are also several important details that are correct.... so IMO the jury is still out. (Catches can vary...photos can throw things "out of scale"..so ???)

I do know the infamous "Stiegermeyer fakes" (don't know the correct spelling) are extremely tricky to tell the differance, come in "all" makers, etc., (other fake versions, also). I'd post this on "The Wehrmacht Awards forum" or one of the other "broader based" forums for a wider response.. they (WAF) also have threads about IDing fakes, "Stiegermeyer's" copies, and originals...

Best I can do for you... looks "good", but I'm not an expert on all the "latest fakes" out there, I'd want several opinions by Luftwaffe Badge specialist... if I was thinking of buying it.
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Re: B & NL Luftwaffe pilots badge

Post by WOLFSLAIRS » 03 Aug 2015 08:15

Hello John,

Thank you very much for all the time and work you have put into this for me.

It is already on a couple of other forums I am also a member of, and although the votes/majority are currently in favour of it being an original, there are also a few doubters!

This particular Luftwaffe badge of mine, is also causing quite a stir on various forums already!

The main point which had been raised was just on the rivets!

I was asked to weigh this badge yesterday, and I find it has also just past the weight test this morning at 44g.

Other members have also added there own identical badges for comparison, and it passes that test also, according to there own words said!

I would also like to add that a comment was made of it being a modern day fake, that has also just been blown out the water, as I replied I had had it for 14x years+!

Which another member then replied:
Additonally, a "perfect" copy is only be possible with the micro casting. 14 years ago ???

Well, I guess you will all know where my vote is, its on the original, and I also have about 80-85% in my camp!

This particular badge I have shown, has really stored up the hornets nest, and is making for really good conversations anyway!

Thanks again very much John, for your help on this particular subject.

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Les.
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B & NL Luftwaffe pilots badge

Post by WOLFSLAIRS » 12 Aug 2015 13:14

Just a quick update on this particular subject chaps!

Its weight is absolutely bang on at 46g, this as taken at the request of a member from another forum.

It has also been personally examined by another member, who has told me he believes it to be a original.

The only real issue that is currently outstanding is related to the rivets, everything else now seems to be passing with flying colours.

If you are also a collector of U-Boat badges, I have a real nice "GWL," starting on eBay tomorrow evening at 20:00 hrs U.K, item number: 291537281578 starting at £230, buy it now for £322, 3x day auction only!

There are also plenty of photographs presently on this forum under my U-Boat topic!

Thanks for all your help with this Luftwaffe Badge, hopefully this will end up on eBay also very soon!
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Re: B & NL Luftwaffe pilots badge

Post by John G. » 12 Aug 2015 17:34

I'll be surprised if E-Bay allows these to sell there... sometimes things sneak through but normally anything with a swastika will be pulled.

You're "U-Boat Badge" pitch really belongs in the "For Sale section" but I'll leave it here...
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Re: B & NL Luftwaffe pilots badge

Post by Mad_for_you » 14 Nov 2019 12:18

Hi i would like to post some images of a badge i just bought but the post does not allow attachments, any ideas on how to upload...images doesn't work either?

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Re: B & NL Luftwaffe pilots badge

Post by Mark in Cleveland, Tn. » 14 Nov 2019 21:57

Might be too large of an image, or you have your files settings wrong in your PC or whatever device you use.

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Re: B & NL Luftwaffe pilots badge

Post by von thoma » 15 Nov 2019 19:17

Going back to the point ;

A suspect badge that puzzles, I lean towards a quality reproduction, thing that has already happened with other
Pilot badges, always marked B&N L

I think that WOLFSLAIRS needed to fool himself, but he was the first to suspect
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