Help needed please - WW2 Iron Cross 2nd class: Fake?

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Help needed please - WW2 Iron Cross 2nd class: Fake?

Post by Peter7651 » 19 Dec 2018 00:01

Hello all

Long time lurker, first time poster. Also, it's my first time I've needed help', as I appear to have over-researched on forums into total confusion!

I recently purchased a WW2 EK2. Aware that the market is flooded with fakes, I turned to the forums so I'd know what to look for, but found it difficult to come to a concrete answer on this one. If it's a fake - then it appears to be a good quality one, but as I've seen, there's more than a few of those around! I'm hopeful in my purchase, however, I'd be really grateful if someone more in the know could please give my photos a look over and offer an opinion please. Happy to post more photos as required

What I know so far:
[*]The cross is in 3 pieces - with the core showing movement
[*]A thin line can be seen along the two halves of the 'frames'
[*]When core is referred to as 'magnetic', does this mean it acts as a magnet or it reacts to a magnet?) - this cross does the latter. Though I also read that their magnetism can fade over the years
[*] There is some pitting on the core
[*] The positioning of the swastika and date doesn't seem consistent with a floche fake
[*] The ring has no makers mark and looks too thin
[*] The core paintwork doesn't seem to edge onto the frame

Thanks in advance!

Peter
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Re: Help needed please - WW2 Iron Cross 2nd class: Fake?

Post by John G. » 19 Dec 2018 02:50

Peter,
Difficult to say with these limited photos, but the picture showing the reverse side (1813) the lower right edge appears to have a high edge that would almost Never have occurred on an original..... assuming it's just not a photographic effect.

The core should be iron, thus it would react TO a magenit.... Can't say I've heard of one being less magnetic
with age...it's not the magnet so why would it? The ring size looks ok, these can vary, and many are unmarked.

Might have slipped by the quality inspection, but not the example I'd want unless I knew where it came from.
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Re: Help needed please - WW2 Iron Cross 2nd class: Fake?

Post by Peter7651 » 19 Dec 2018 16:42

Thanks John

Really appreciate your comments! I think the reverse RH might be a trick of the camera. I've attached a better shot here. Might be a return to the shop for me then - it wasn't too pricey, but not the sort of money I'd want to risk wasting on a fake.
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Re: Help needed please - WW2 Iron Cross 2nd class: Fake?

Post by von thoma » 19 Dec 2018 23:11

A England copy, I think
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Re: Help needed please - WW2 Iron Cross 2nd class: Fake?

Post by Peter7651 » 20 Dec 2018 00:18

Cheers! What are the signs of an English copy?

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Re: Help needed please - WW2 Iron Cross 2nd class: Fake?

Post by Iron eagle 13 » 09 Jan 2019 21:38

Same question please. That's good to find experts. I'm looking at getting this one it's my first
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Re: Help needed please - WW2 Iron Cross 2nd class: Fake?

Post by John G. » 11 Jan 2019 19:42

Look at the beading around the frame of the Cross, notice the difference... the first one does look very weak compared to the second cross pictured..... that's what I'm see anyway. (Didn't really notice until the second cross was posted).
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