Reichssieger 1938 & 1939

scowen · Post by **scowen** » 13 Aug 2003 14:39

Hi, me again.

Another couple of badges on approval. This time Reichssiegers, from a reputable source, but as they say "don't trust any one".

I'd appreciate any views as to originality, good/bad points to look for. The enamel on the 1938 is white rather than cream, were any white?

Here goes

scowen · Post by **scowen** » 13 Aug 2003 14:40

scowen · Post by **scowen** » 13 Aug 2003 14:40

eagles detail

scowen · Post by **scowen** » 13 Aug 2003 14:41

Claws

scowen · Post by **scowen** » 13 Aug 2003 14:42

Now the 1939, this is cream in colour

scowen · Post by **scowen** » 13 Aug 2003 14:42

scowen · Post by **scowen** » 13 Aug 2003 14:43

Eagle

scowen · Post by **scowen** » 13 Aug 2003 14:44

Claws

Richard van Kempen · Post by **Richard van Kempen** » 13 Aug 2003 15:32

Hi Scowen
Can you post a pic of the catch?

Richard

Richard van Kempen · Post by **Richard van Kempen** » 13 Aug 2003 15:33

*OOPS* double post

scowen · Post by **scowen** » 13 Aug 2003 16:23

here goes: 1938 catch

scowen · Post by **scowen** » 13 Aug 2003 16:24

Greg K. · Post by **Greg K.** » 13 Aug 2003 19:47

man i'd love to own that baby!!!!

it looks good to me, and only if i had the $$$$$$

Richard van Kempen · Post by **Richard van Kempen** » 13 Aug 2003 21:16

Hi Scowen.

I've been studying these victors badges for about a year now,to be precise i study the Reichsberufswettkampf (thanks to this badge

).

The last couple hours i've been busy with your badges, unfortunatly i don't own a Reichssieger badge

so i've used my Brehmer Kreissieger as a benchmark (original) to compare with all other badges i have on file Kreis, Gau and Reichssiegers made by Brehmer.

At first glance there was nothing wrong with the badges untill i read on and saw your concern on the enamel collour,i started to look closer and found even more differences between the 1938 and 1939 badges.

The different one is the 1938 Reichssieger

Lets start with the Makers mark.

1. the letter G looks rounded in the lower right
2. B has round corners on the left
3. the R's right leg is shorter
4. E has a blob on his head
5. The M's left leg is larger and sticks out
6. N same as M

The 1939 mm is the same as every other badge i compared with (and those were quite a few

)

Richard van Kempen · Post by **Richard van Kempen** » 13 Aug 2003 21:24

The leaves on the 1938 are quite different from the Reichssieger 39 and my Kreissieger 1938.
And the 2 dots that seperate the leaves are closer to the enamel

As you noticed the enamel collour is white while on the botton 2 badges (Reichs 1939 centre and Kreis 1938 bottom) it the correct cream white.

Also the enamel on the top badge (1938) looks not even (but that could be the pic)