German Gold Cross

Discussions on Axis awards and decorations. Hosted by John G & William Kramer.
User avatar
admfisher
Member
Posts: 645
Joined: 30 Mar 2002 01:38
Location: Toronto

German Gold Cross

Post by admfisher » 27 Aug 2002 07:32

In von Lucks book when he is awarded the Gold Cross he says that it was made to go between the 1st class Iron Cross and Knights Cross.
But he refers to it as "Hitlers Fried Egg".
I have seen the pictures of it and does seem to be abit much, anyone know any more about this award.

Thanks

User avatar
Bryan Poon
Member
Posts: 1164
Joined: 12 May 2002 15:38
Location: Hong Kong SAR

Post by Bryan Poon » 27 Aug 2002 09:33

Hi

You can find the "Fired Egg" info from the following site.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/german_ ... s_main.htm

BP

Ludwig
Member
Posts: 131
Joined: 13 Mar 2002 10:54

Deutsches Kreuz

Post by Ludwig » 27 Aug 2002 09:52

It was also called "Party badge for nearsightened"!

User avatar
admfisher
Member
Posts: 645
Joined: 30 Mar 2002 01:38
Location: Toronto

gold egg

Post by admfisher » 27 Aug 2002 17:17

Von Luck statest that he never wore the award unless he was going HQ or a meeting with higher ups.

He sems to have very little regard for this award, it may be due to the fact that he was one of the 100 000 man german army before Hitler and he never seems to show any high regard for him. I don't believe his opinions are from after the war. As he seems to have been a 'Rommel camp follower'.

Benjamin Fanjoy
Banned
Posts: 1723
Joined: 10 Apr 2002 10:53
Location: Canada

Post by Benjamin Fanjoy » 27 Aug 2002 17:36

Admfisher,

Yes you are correct; the German Cross in Gold (DK) was awarded to honor an act of combat related bravery that would be superior to that warranting the Iron Cross 1st Class (EK1), but inferior to the Knights Cross of the Iron Cross.



Regards,

Ben
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
admfisher
Member
Posts: 645
Joined: 30 Mar 2002 01:38
Location: Toronto

Medaglia d'Argento

Post by admfisher » 27 Aug 2002 21:11

Ok now we now of the gold cross how does the Medaglia d'Argento fit in, von Luck states that if was a very high award that gave him first class train transport for life.

I wonder if he still gets the train rides. The Medaglia d'Argento was awarded for his actions in Africa with the Italians.

stalktiger
Member
Posts: 44
Joined: 18 Aug 2002 23:30
Location: Allentown, PA

Post by stalktiger » 29 Aug 2002 05:09

Train rides in Valhalla perhaps...

User avatar
admfisher
Member
Posts: 645
Joined: 30 Mar 2002 01:38
Location: Toronto

whats this

Post by admfisher » 29 Aug 2002 21:13

What's this?
Train rides in Valhalla perhaps...

Gallow humor maybe, he survived the war and I only wanted to know if the award had been diminished by the loss of Germany.

User avatar
Erik E
Financial supporter
Posts: 4517
Joined: 11 Mar 2002 22:26
Location: Stavanger, Norway

Post by Erik E » 29 Aug 2002 22:09

Yes you are correct; the German Cross in Gold (DK) was awarded to honor an act of combat related bravery that would be superior to that warranting the Iron Cross 1st Class (EK1), but inferior to the Knights Cross of the Iron Cross.
This was what it was meant to be, but the actual award of it seems to have followed other lines too.......

According to ABR, Kapt.Z. See August thiele got his DKiG 4 years AFTER his KC........(And there are many more examples.)

And here is a quote from wehrmacht-awards.com:
Neither were in any way part of the classes of the Iron Cross. Because of this, recipients might first receive the Knight’s Cross of the Iron Cross and afterwards the German Cross—or vice versa.

stalktiger
Member
Posts: 44
Joined: 18 Aug 2002 23:30
Location: Allentown, PA

Post by stalktiger » 30 Aug 2002 01:36

Hey adminfisher(sp?)

I just meant that Hans von Luck has passed away. Hence the Valhalla reference.
The German Cross in Gold was definately a highly regarded combat award and I would venture to say that there is quite a bit of honor for the person awarded one.
There are several men I have contact with who won theirs with the Tiger units and they are proud -- wearing them to honor their fallen comrades.

User avatar
admfisher
Member
Posts: 645
Joined: 30 Mar 2002 01:38
Location: Toronto

von Luck

Post by admfisher » 30 Aug 2002 01:55

stalktiger wrote:Hey adminfisher(sp?)

I just meant that Hans von Luck has passed away. Hence the Valhalla reference.
The German Cross in Gold was definately a highly regarded combat award and I would venture to say that there is quite a bit of honor for the person awarded one.
There are several men I have contact with who won theirs with the Tiger units and they are proud -- wearing them to honor their fallen comrades.
Grant aka admfisher
Fishers Armor and Warships
http://www3.sympatico.ca/admfisher/html/start.html

Sorry to jump but von Luck seems to have been a very good man in the end.
The Gold Cross he looked on a award created by Hitler, thus he had little regard for it.
Even when he was promoted to full Oberst. He thought in 45 it didnt really mean much.

stalktiger
Member
Posts: 44
Joined: 18 Aug 2002 23:30
Location: Allentown, PA

Post by stalktiger » 30 Aug 2002 01:58

Ya -- he was no Nazi sympathizer -- old school Heer officer. His book is excellent.
Gotta wonder about the "what if" Hitler had been taken out and Rommel et.al could have taken a power position in the post-Hitler Reich.

User avatar
tigre
Member
Posts: 9951
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 11:48
Location: Argentina

Re: German Gold Cross

Post by tigre » 27 Mar 2022 18:50

Hello to all :D; a complement.................................

German Cross in Gold (DKiG)!

Source: "UX" Stand im Mittelmeer - Mit einem deutschen U-Boot auf Feindfahrt

Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Return to “Axis Awards”