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Need wartime soup recipes

Post by Tero T » 31 May 2007 18:37

I recently installed correct wheels for my M1929 field kitchen. I will be cooking up some soup at the Finlandia village rest home in Sudbury during the festivities on June 22. I have only one recipe for pea soup which I received from a war veteran in Florida U.S.A . I have some manuals that detail the care and operation of the soup kitchen but no recipes. The one recipe I have is below . Does anyone have others.? I know this is not as dramatic as frontline combat activities. But I know Finnish soldiers did fight better on a full stomach. Even Lauri Torni was a cook early in his military career. Thanks in advance. Best Regards Tero Tuononen

Herne Soppa recipe
For a full kettle fill with water to about 20 centimeter below rim.

Whole peas (soak over night) 27kg (60lbs)

Ham diced to 2 x 2 cm or less 27kg (60lbs)

Onions chopped (in food blender) 1.3kg (3lbs)

Garlic chopped ³ 250gr

Salt to taste

Spices: marjoram, mustard...

If decided you could add carrots (chopped) for flavor.
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Re: Need wartime soup recipes

Post by JTV » 31 May 2007 19:34

Nice, I used to eat from one of these quite a few times when I did my military service in early 1990's. Obviously it had more modern tires though. :D

Unfortunately I don't have wartime soup recipies, but what about pre-war recipy for delicious porridge from Lotta Svärd. This is probably intended for field kitchen in the first place. Its loaned from book "Suomen Lotat" (Lottas' of Finland) page 30.

"Delicious porridge (for 100 men):

Materials:
- 45 litres of water
- 7 kg of oat groats
- 7 kg of smashed lingonberry
- 1.5 kg of dried apples
- piece of cinnamon
- 4 kg of sugar
- some salt

Dried apples need to be rinsed and laid in water in the previous evening - they remain in water until added to porridge. Boil lingonberries and water to get lingonberry juice. Place percolated lingonberry juice, apples from the water, oat groats and cinnamon to boiler and cook until oat groats are well done and apples have turned to pulp. Add sugar and salt for flavour."

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Post by Tero T » 31 May 2007 19:38

Thanks Jarkko!
Now I am getting hungry just reading the ingredients to this recipe. Interesting that I have never seen this particular recipe . Thanks again. Regards

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 31 May 2007 21:34

Hi Tero,

The best looking field kitchen I ever have seen, I would say. Congratulations.
Here is a (mainly) in Finnish language study Feeding the Finnish Army 1939 - 1945 (with a short English summary in the end part) http://ethesis.helsinki.fi/julkaisut/ma ... ntamam.pdf
At the appendix 2, chart 13, there are mentioned ingredients of some dishes.

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Post by Tero T » 31 May 2007 22:37

Thank you Juha!
This is indeed a very thorough study of nutrition during the war years. Also of interest was the variety of various porridges that were feed the troops. Seems that pea soup was the more common meal. I have printed out some sections and will display this information. Thanks again . Regards Tero T

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 01 Jun 2007 06:56

Hi TT from T

Information not shared is lost as the Forum motto goes :)

How about serving some Sotatarmojuoma (the ingredients found at the appendix I mentioned) as a drink with the soup you cook :)

Sotatarmojuoma (War... I think I leave the translation of this term to you)
-sugar 64,6
-milk powder 14,3
-ovomaltine (? malt, mikl, eggs? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovaltine ) 20,9
-sideaine (? thickening mixture) 2,1
-spirits 1,1
-hyydytysaine (? jellying mixture) 0,5

Could you post the proper translations?

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 01 Jun 2007 09:54

...hmmm...as seems to be being kind of sweet "liquid food", sort of milk shake type (?) it would perhaps better suit as a dessert.

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Post by Tero T » 01 Jun 2007 13:21

I will test it on my 12 year old son. :D Thanks again Tero T

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Post by DragunovSVD » 02 Jun 2007 04:26

that's one sweet goulashkanone! be sure to post pics of the event later!

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Post by G:son » 05 Jun 2007 05:32

Very nice field kitchen. The recipe for pea soup seems otherwise ok, but garlic has never been one of the traditional ingredients. I would also definitely skip the carrots and the onions, I know some people throw in these also, but they do not belong in a traditional Finnish army pea soup. I suggest you try out the recipes on a somewhat smaller scale, before filling up your field kitchen. :)

Discussing Finnish army wartime recipes, one must not forget "jarru" ("brake"), the "secret ingredient" (bromium?) some soldiers believed was added to certain foods, to decrease their sexual ability. In all probability, this is of course a legend, with no truth in it. But conscripts still call the dessert creme that is served today, by that very same name. :)

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Post by Tero T » 05 Jun 2007 13:36

Good Day!

Thank you for the information on the pea soup. Yes the garlic, onions and carrots have been indicated to me to be post war recipe modifications. As we will be serving 80+ year old men we will probably be adding Viagra and not Bromine. This resthome will be humming. Best Regards Tero Tuononen

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Post by Tuco » 05 Jun 2007 19:16

Looks better with the correct wheels. Nice Tero and I look forward to seeing you later this month.
I had to act each morning as the pea soup "taster" at the Michigan Finnfest. Pea soup is nice but not at 9am :lol:

BTW - My new item that JTV just shipped to me. If you like Tero you can wear this at the event :P
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Post by Tero T » 05 Jun 2007 22:24

Nice dress Brent. Bring it along with you when you come up. I will have a small Lotta display next to the soup canon. I will be making the soup. 99% of the Lotta's were attractive and 1% not so attractive( I cannot back this with any data). So I will represent the not so attractive Lottas. :D Tero T

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Post by DragunovSVD » 07 Jun 2007 03:15

I will have a small Lotta display next to the soup canon.


i know that goulashkanone was the German slang, did the Finns have a similar name?

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Post by Tero T » 07 Jun 2007 03:51

Soup Canon was the only expression I am aware of ! Tero T

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