Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by ttvon » 23 Jun 2007 03:11

Hi,Ingo
Heinrich Schultz?
But I can't fing the name in the RKT's list.
And I can't find him on the internet.
Why is that?

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Post by herbert » 23 Jun 2007 06:24

351 = Albert Müller

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Post by Ingo » 23 Jun 2007 07:28

Hello ttvon,

look here

http://das-ritterkreuz.de/index_search_ ... ord=schulz

Some write him as Heinrich Schulz and some as Heinrich Schultz.

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three luftwaffe Rk holders

Post by Phil Nix » 24 Jun 2007 11:08

Three Luftwaffe RK holders on the left Hptm Andreas Kuffner Kdr I(PZ)/SG9, Oberlt Rainer Nossek Staffelkapitan 3(PZ) SG9 and Oberleutnant Wihelm Bromen Kpt 1 staffel SG9. all KIA 30.4.1945 near Schwerin shot down by members of RAF 350 Squadron
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Post by Elwyn W » 24 Jun 2007 13:38

Bake,

Your RK verleihung was of ObLt Johannes Baasch InfRgt 410. Decorating general was Sigfrid Macholz, his div kmdr. If you flip back a few pages in this thread, I had posted Baasch too ( which I hadn't been able to ID then). That was from another series of verleihung pics although the one you posted seemed from be from a different lot.

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Post by Elwyn W » 24 Jun 2007 21:15

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This should be ObLt Hans Otto Fabian, Fhr III/GrRgt 534/384 Div 0n 15.03.43, later ELT. General on the right pic looked like Eccard FrHr v Gablenz. He was kmdr of 384 Div for winter of 41/42 and 42/43. There were only two RTKs from thsi division during this period. v Gablenz went on to command Div Nr 404, a EuA division in Eastren Germany and 232 Div in which there were no RKTs.

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Post by bake » 01 Jul 2007 20:07

Göring and ?????????

From : http://www.germaniainternational.com
From right to left: Friedrich-August Freiherr von der Heydte - Walter Gericke - Ludwig Heilmann - Edgar Stentzler - Richard Heidrich - Alfred Sturm / AHF id
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Karl Gümbel ?

Post by P-HOFFMANN » 04 Jul 2007 16:09

Hello,

I bought two of these three photos on ebay showing a general visiting / inspecting the Sturmgeschütz-Ausbildungs- und Ersatzabteilung 600 in Deutsch-Eylau in spring 1943. Is it possible that these pics are showing

Generalleutnant KARL GÜMBEL,

during that time "Kommandeur der Ersatztruppen II" ?

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KC ID

Post by harmel » 04 Jul 2007 18:39

Hi Peter,definate on Gumbel
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Post by P-HOFFMANN » 04 Jul 2007 19:15

Hi Harmel,

thank you for your very quick answer. Here is an extract of one of the ebay-pictures I bought showing GÜMBEL and GERHARD WILHELM BEHNKE, Sturmgeschütz- KC-holder during that time and Oakleaves-holder later in 1944.

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Post by Elwyn W » 04 Jul 2007 22:51

Hi Peter,

Nice talking to you again so soon.

That makes this pic Gümbel too. It was from the same set of Behnke pics from Ebay a while ago.

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Regarding the pic Behnke + Gümbel pic, could it be taken later? Gümbel was Kmdr of 348 Div in Northern France from 27.09.42 to 05.02.44. Biblio Verlag only had him as OKH FhrRes after that. Was he Kommandeur der Ersatztruppen II? Sturmgeschütz-Ersatz und Ausbildung-Abteilung 600 was formed at Neiss and moved to Deutsche Eylau in Sept 43 when Behnke assumed command.

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Post by P-HOFFMANN » 05 Jul 2007 06:15

Hi Freiherr,

nice to meet you, too. You are absolutely right, the time of inspection was in spring 1944 (later than 01. March 1944). StuG-Abtlg. 600 was formed on 26.07.1943 at Neisse and moved to Deutsch Eylau from 07. to 12.08.1943.

Regarding to the function of Gümbel have a look at this site: http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... nNr152.htm
You will find Stug-Abtl. 600 at the bottom of this site.

In the set of Behnke pics from ebay I was specially interested in the pics showing "HOFFMANN-SCHOENBORN" who took part in the inspection in his function as Kommandeur of Sturmgeschütz-Schule in Burg / Magdeburg.

I succeded to get all the pictures I was interested in... :)

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Post by John Toner » 05 Jul 2007 06:46

In the Göring and who? photo posted by Bake, are they parachute badges, and if they are, is that Heilmann third from right?

John

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 06 Jul 2007 16:12

John Toner wrote:In the Göring and who? photo posted by Bake, are they parachute badges, and if they are, is that Heilmann third from right?

John
and von der Heydte at right ??

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Post by bake » 06 Jul 2007 21:58

So you tink that this Ceremony?

18/07/41, FHQ, Wolfsschanze
LW-WH ceremony
- Obst. August Krakau (314. RK)
- Obstlt. August Wittmann (313. RK)
- NCO Gebirgsjäger (maybe Sandner or Burghartweiser)
- Obst. Alfred Sturm (LW - 234. RK)
- Major Edgar Stenzler (LW – 239. RK)
- Major Ludwig Heilmann (LW – 203. RK)
- Gen.Lt. Kurt Student (LW – 18. RK) : doubtful in my opinion due to his earlier bestowal date. I would say he was there to introduce his best men to AH.
- Obst. Richard Heidrich (LW – 202. RK)
- Hptm. Friedrich-August Freiherr von der Heydte (LW - 235. RK)
- Hptm. Gerhart Schirmer (LW – 204. RK)
- Oblt. Harry Herrmann (LW – 236. RK)
- Oblt. Arnold von Roon (LW – 237. RK)

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