Fallschirmjäger RKTs - pics and career data
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Imagine had he not become a p.o.w the other actions he may have took part in like italy,france or russia,germany etc...?,but then many of the FJ,nco's,officers,generals etc... where very good leaders of there men in action.I suppose too Heinrich Schäfer is not alive and if so when did he die,or is he alive still possibly?,thanks.
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Thanks for that info Peter,and silly i forgot year he was born then too?,Edit the answer into you post would be best maybe,thanks.
Thanks Peter for the addd info too,thats young realy too,maybe war wounds effected this?,but have seen a few other FJ officers i think or generals not living for long lives,some others though did live longer ones like kurt student for one and baron vov der heydte too who died not to long ago i think,or a few years or so?.
Thanks Peter for the addd info too,thats young realy too,maybe war wounds effected this?,but have seen a few other FJ officers i think or generals not living for long lives,some others though did live longer ones like kurt student for one and baron vov der heydte too who died not to long ago i think,or a few years or so?.
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Hi FANGIO and all,
in arrangement with Peter both Fsch.Jäg RKT threads has been merged.
Beside the unit threads "1st Para Div" and "Fsch.Pz.Div 1 HG" this one is open for any further additions - pics or Bio - on Fsch.Jäg in general.
The index on page 1 is updated according to the new thread composition.
Thanks and regards
Bernd
in arrangement with Peter both Fsch.Jäg RKT threads has been merged.
Beside the unit threads "1st Para Div" and "Fsch.Pz.Div 1 HG" this one is open for any further additions - pics or Bio - on Fsch.Jäg in general.
The index on page 1 is updated according to the new thread composition.
Thanks and regards
Bernd
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7.Fallschirmjäger–Division RKTs
Including former Fallschirmjäger–Division Erdmann activated at Arnhem.
Wolfgang Erdmann
Commanded 18 Luftwaffe Division in 1943.Division Erdmann activated August 1944 from ad hoc units.Renamed 7FJD later.His division was in Alsace defending the Hagenau Forest in January 1945.Awarded RKT for his division's performance there.
From: http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de/
Including former Fallschirmjäger–Division Erdmann activated at Arnhem.
Wolfgang Erdmann
Commanded 18 Luftwaffe Division in 1943.Division Erdmann activated August 1944 from ad hoc units.Renamed 7FJD later.His division was in Alsace defending the Hagenau Forest in January 1945.Awarded RKT for his division's performance there.
From: http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de/
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Hi Peter and all,
what about the following KC holders ? Looking for any info and confirmation of the added info [per Scherzer] :
Hönscheid, Johannes M., 16.03.1945 Oberfeldwebel, Kriegsberichter der Fallschirmtruppe
[deed in july 1943 at Sicily , with III./Fsch.Jäg.Rgt 4]
Kerutt, Hellmut, 02.02.1945, Major, Kdr Fsch.Jäg.Btl Kerutt [verst. I./FJR 18 (alt)]
[6. FJD ; attached to another unit ?]
Paul, Hugo, 18.11.1944, Hauptmann, Fhr Fsch.Jäg.Btl Paul [im Bereich der 334. Inf.Div]
Witzig, Rudolf, 25.11.1944 [662. EL], Major Kdr I./Fsch.Pi.Rgt 21
Yes, well known Witzig. Fought with his Btl. at Lithuania and East Prussia and is said to have been the last Fsch.Jäg unit at the Ostfront in 1944.
Fought side by side with : Fsch.Jäg.Rgt 16 (Ost) = Kgr. Oberstleutnant Schirmer
Question here : Witzig's Pioniere subordinated to Schirmer or both units independent officially ?
Great job Peter, thanks
Interesting to see Büttner, Trotz and Vögerl.
I take it the men flown into Festung Breslau [FJR 26] formed the Trotz-Btl.
Several bits and pieces of info I gathered so far, indicated that Büttner and Vögerl have been at Breslau too ; so, that's wrong ? both at the area STETTIN - any more confirmation for that ?
Bernd
what about the following KC holders ? Looking for any info and confirmation of the added info [per Scherzer] :
Hönscheid, Johannes M., 16.03.1945 Oberfeldwebel, Kriegsberichter der Fallschirmtruppe
[deed in july 1943 at Sicily , with III./Fsch.Jäg.Rgt 4]
Kerutt, Hellmut, 02.02.1945, Major, Kdr Fsch.Jäg.Btl Kerutt [verst. I./FJR 18 (alt)]
[6. FJD ; attached to another unit ?]
Paul, Hugo, 18.11.1944, Hauptmann, Fhr Fsch.Jäg.Btl Paul [im Bereich der 334. Inf.Div]
Witzig, Rudolf, 25.11.1944 [662. EL], Major Kdr I./Fsch.Pi.Rgt 21
Yes, well known Witzig. Fought with his Btl. at Lithuania and East Prussia and is said to have been the last Fsch.Jäg unit at the Ostfront in 1944.
Fought side by side with : Fsch.Jäg.Rgt 16 (Ost) = Kgr. Oberstleutnant Schirmer
Question here : Witzig's Pioniere subordinated to Schirmer or both units independent officially ?
Great job Peter, thanks

I take it the men flown into Festung Breslau [FJR 26] formed the Trotz-Btl.
Several bits and pieces of info I gathered so far, indicated that Büttner and Vögerl have been at Breslau too ; so, that's wrong ? both at the area STETTIN - any more confirmation for that ?
Bernd
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The Bataillon Kerutt was part of Kampfgruppe Walther in September 1944.Bernd R wrote:Hi Peter and all,
what about the following KC holder ? Looking for any info and confirmation of the added info [per Scherzer] :
Kerutt, Hellmut, 02.02.1945, Major, Kdr Fsch.Jäg.Btl Kerutt [verst. I./FJR 18 (alt)]
[6. FJD ; attached to another unit ?]
Bernd
Kerutt was severely wounded on 17.10.1944 in the area Sambeeksche and Vierlingbeeksche Heide (heather area of Sambeek and Vierlingbeek).
He returned not before April 1945 as Inspektionschef of the Fallschirmoffiziersschule in Berlin-Reickendorf (end of the war in Goslar).
Diter Z.
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Many thanks, Dieter !
Kgr. Walther did ring the bell ! Good little hint with great effect
Issue discussed here with some great info and background.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... pe+walther
Bernd
Kgr. Walther did ring the bell ! Good little hint with great effect

Issue discussed here with some great info and background.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... pe+walther
Bernd
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Hello Bernd, Dieter, Peter et al!
The interesting thing about Kriegsberichter and Oberfeldwebel Johannes M. Hönscheid is that he recieved the DKiG on the same day as he recieved the RK, that is on 16.03.1945. Since his RK was made for action on Sicily in 1943 (long wait for an award!), it would also be interesting to learn of the reasons of his DKiG. Was it also long overdue or was it awarded for action much closer to the award date? Hönscheid belonged to the Heer when the awards were recieved.
There's a great photo of Hönscheid (in Heer uniform) recieving the RK in "Tank Killers - History of the Tank Destruction Badge" by Breyette & Bender (2000). It clearly shows his three Panzervernichtungsabzeichen, a Nahkampfspange and the "Afrika" cuff title. An interesting character!
About Hönscheid's DKiG... He is not listed in Patzwall & Scherzer's "Das Deutsche KReuz 1941-1945" (2001) as a recipient of the DKiG but Scherzer lists the award and date in his "Ritterkreuzträger" (2005).
I will also look forward to more input and information (photos!) of Hönscheid from fellow members...
Regards,
Krollspell
The interesting thing about Kriegsberichter and Oberfeldwebel Johannes M. Hönscheid is that he recieved the DKiG on the same day as he recieved the RK, that is on 16.03.1945. Since his RK was made for action on Sicily in 1943 (long wait for an award!), it would also be interesting to learn of the reasons of his DKiG. Was it also long overdue or was it awarded for action much closer to the award date? Hönscheid belonged to the Heer when the awards were recieved.
There's a great photo of Hönscheid (in Heer uniform) recieving the RK in "Tank Killers - History of the Tank Destruction Badge" by Breyette & Bender (2000). It clearly shows his three Panzervernichtungsabzeichen, a Nahkampfspange and the "Afrika" cuff title. An interesting character!
About Hönscheid's DKiG... He is not listed in Patzwall & Scherzer's "Das Deutsche KReuz 1941-1945" (2001) as a recipient of the DKiG but Scherzer lists the award and date in his "Ritterkreuzträger" (2005).

I will also look forward to more input and information (photos!) of Hönscheid from fellow members...
Regards,
Krollspell