missing L14

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Schartentüre

Post by Luchtkastelen 40-45 » 07 Jun 2007 20:42

Good find Tim! Perfect proof of the concrete doors in this type of bunker. Until now, I found some other (BRV-)drawings with the concrete doors (2x De Kooy, 1x Leeuwarden and 1x Woensdrecht) but on other drawings and all the bunkers I found in the field in Nl, B and F there was no trace of such doors.

Can you tell more about the rest of the drawing? Which archive does it come from? What is the location of the bunker? Who made this drawing? When?

Regards, René

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Flak ammobox

Post by Luchtkastelen 40-45 » 07 Jun 2007 20:49

Recently I made this foto in the Atlantikwall Museum MKB Todt. The position of the ammobox is very suggestive to the sketch Lars posted before....

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Post by der bunkermann » 07 Jun 2007 22:27

hi, the drawing comes from the brv archive, as you know there have been some german drawings in that archive to.
unfortunatly a lot is stolen in all the years but fortunatly i got my hands on this drawing.
unfortunatly it's in very bad shape and allmost unreadable.
there's no further info on who made it and when, exept LGK belgie / nederland....
so it's a technical drawing and not a drawing of one specific bunker.
gr, tim
the supposed name sch(were) flak 2007 confuses me.
2 cm flak is not schwer, right?
gr, tim
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Post by jopaerya » 08 Jun 2007 06:10

Hello All

The bunker is used for sure as a "Schartenstand" bunker for gun
and not for searchlight , the Sch could also mean Schartenstand .
The addition with the 2 flaps could also mean the 2007 .

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Post by jopaerya » 09 Jun 2007 14:54

Hi All

Checked my notes from the B.R.V. there is also a "Überdeckte G-Stand für 2 cm oder 3,7 Flak Feldmässige Ausführung Sch.Flak 2006 " in the same map as the Sch Flak 2007 . Inventaris nummer 1038 . from the Feldbauamt im Flughafenbereich Gesehen 7 september 1943 LGK B/N .
But I have no copy of this bunkerdrawing , maybe someone else ????

Regards Jos

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L14 or L15

Post by pierrot » 09 Nov 2007 21:22

Hello,

I just rediscovered this bunker near the Flugplatz Coxyde (Koksijde, Belgium).
A second one still stands a few hundreds meters away and there are facing each other, so I conclude that there are lying at each end of the take-off runway of WW2.

Is this bunker a L14 or a L15?

Thanks for helping

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Post by jopaerya » 09 Nov 2007 22:13

Hello Pierrot

Is this the second one please page 2 ?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... c&start=15

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Post by pierrot » 09 Nov 2007 22:25

Hello Jos,

Yes, it's the second one. I have seen this picture before in the archives of Dirk Peeters. Is that one from you or from Dirk?

So it's a L15!

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Post by jopaerya » 09 Nov 2007 22:38

Hello Pierrot

I am not sure about the photo , from Dirk of from me .
For the L/15 I am not so sure , there is no original proof .

Regards Jos

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Schartenstand Coxijde

Post by Luchtkastelen 40-45 » 27 Nov 2007 11:43

Hi Pierrot,

foto below is the other one at Coxijde. Perhaps this bunkertype is the L14, but there is no documentation or proof so we do not know for sure (yet).

Nice you found a second bunker of this type. I have been looking for these but missed it. Could you give more precise directions for my next visit?

Also on the north side of the airfield, near the fence of the waste disposal, should have been a L13 with steel cupola, but there are no traces of that anymore.

Rgds, René Dolfsma
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L13 of Flugplatz Coxyde

Post by pierrot » 27 Nov 2007 20:09

Hallo René,

You are not the first one who tries to find the L13 and doesn't find it. One drawing from 1946 from the Belgian Army shows well the location but the drawing made reference of the wrong crossroad on the plan, that's why many people before you searched on the wrong place and of course, never found it.
I can now break the myth, and tell you loud and clear that the L13 of the Flugplatz Coxyde still exists although its cupolla has disappeared.
In fact if you find the second (presumed) L14, you will find also the L13 lying 50 m further away.
Both of them are located on a farmer ground but the farm stand in the middle of the military airbase of Coxyde (Koksijde), so not freely accessible.
It's very strange but there are so 3 farms located inside the airbase completly surrounded by the runways or military installations.
Hereunder some pictures of the L13 of Coxyde. Other interesting bunkers and structures still exist in and around the base too.

Greetings

Pierrot

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Post by AvB » 27 Nov 2007 20:22

Was the turret ever placed in this L 13?

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Post by jopaerya » 27 Nov 2007 20:50

Thanks Pierrot

For sharing this information , a other posibility is that
there were 2 x L/13 at Coxyde as we see on other airfields .

Regards Jos

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L13 cupola

Post by Luchtkastelen 40-45 » 27 Nov 2007 21:25

Thanks Pierrot for the revelation of the second L14(?) and the L13. Judging from the empty holes in the ring, it looks like the Drehkranz was never placed.

Could you make a mark on the map below where about to look for it? Would it be accessible during the annual open day in the summer, or are these bunkers even then off limits?

Rgds, René Dolfsma
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Another (presumed) L14

Post by pierrot » 31 Jan 2008 12:18

Hello everybody,

Something that will most probably interest René (Luchtkastelen), apart from the 2 remaining (presumed) L14 in Coxyde, another one is still present also on the former FlugPlatz Maldegem. it seems to be identical to those of Coxyde.
See here the link to the website of my friend Buran:
http://atlanticwallbelgiumboulogne.110m ... gplatz.htm

Greetings

Pierrot

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