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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Bernd R » 18 Jun 2008 13:01

Thanks Shawn, added.

Not yet determined a headquarter unit for these two :
Peters, Dr. Johannes, 05.01.1944, Korvettenkapitän d.R., Chef einer Sicherungsdivision
Schulz, Gerhard, 28.04.1944, Kapitän zur See z.V., Chef 1. Sicherungsflottille

date re-check for Polenz ?
6. Sicherungs-Flotille
/ Komm.Adm. der Französischen Südküste (since june 44)

German Cross in Gold (1)
Polenz, Hermann, Korvettenkapitän d.R., Chef. 6. Sicherungsflottille
of note : torpedoboat KC and DKiG holder Wirich von Gartzen (once listed as Wilrich)

can we have a name re-check for :
Minenschiffgruppe Ost
German Cross in Gold (1)
Schönemark von, Hans Caspar, 20.11.1941, Fregattenkapitän, Kommandant Minenschiff “Ulm”
Schönermark ?
Jacobson, Walter, 06.08.1942, Kapitänleutnant d.R., Kommandant Torpedoboot “Iltis”
Jacobsen ??


I have added the list U-Boote DKiG Recipients (Missing U-Boote Number): to the [page 105] general view, too. Surely we will get to know many of them - matter of time and priority.

Thanks, Bernd

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by USAF1986 » 18 Jun 2008 13:36

Polenz – 28.09.1944
Von Gartzen – Wilrich (per Scheibert)
Schönemark – as written in Scheibert
Jacobson – as written in Scheibert

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Doktor Krollspell » 20 Jun 2008 12:11

Hello Bernd!

Here's another Feuerwerker with the DKiG for you. (Source: Patzwall & Scherzer 2001)

Krammer, Josef, 26.11.1943, Oberfeuerwerker, Luft-Mun.Verw.Anst.Kalkum Spreng-Kdo. 1/VI


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Krollspell

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Bernd R » 20 Jun 2008 17:55

Added [page 14], thanks Krollspell ! :D
Same award date like (Wehrkreis VI, Köln)
Fischer, Hans, 26.11.1943, Oberfeuerwerker, Spreng-Kdo. d. Lw. 2./VI (Köln)

Bernd

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Heimatschuss » 21 Jun 2008 08:31

Bernd R wrote:Thanks Shawn, added.

Not yet determined a headquarter unit for these two :
Peters, Dr. Johannes, 05.01.1944, Korvettenkapitän d.R., Chef einer Sicherungsdivision
Schulz, Gerhard, 28.04.1944, Kapitän zur See z.V., Chef 1. Sicherungsflottille

date re-check for Polenz ?
6. Sicherungs-Flotille
/ Komm.Adm. der Französischen Südküste (since june 44)

German Cross in Gold (1)
Polenz, Hermann, Korvettenkapitän d.R., Chef. 6. Sicherungsflottille
of note : torpedoboat KC and DKiG holder Wirich von Gartzen (once listed as Wilrich)

can we have a name re-check for :
Minenschiffgruppe Ost
German Cross in Gold (1)
Schönemark von, Hans Caspar, 20.11.1941, Fregattenkapitän, Kommandant Minenschiff “Ulm”
Schönermark ?
Jacobson, Walter, 06.08.1942, Kapitänleutnant d.R., Kommandant Torpedoboot “Iltis”
Jacobsen ??


I have added the list U-Boote DKiG Recipients (Missing U-Boote Number): to the [page 105] general view, too. Surely we will get to know many of them - matter of time and priority.

Thanks, Bernd

Hello,

KKpt Johannes Peters is listed as commander of 9. Vorposten-Flotille Feb 1941 - April 1944
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/km ... fl1-20.htm

Gerhard Schulz
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/km ... fl-ost.htm

Correct name seems to be Jacobsen.
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/41-01.htm
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/41-02.htm
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/42-05.htm

Correct name seems to be von Schönermark
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/40-08.htm
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/41-01.htm
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/41-02.htm
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/41-06.htm
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/41-07.htm
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/42-03.htm
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/42-06.htm
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/44-02.htm

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Torsten

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Bernd R » 22 Jun 2008 15:05

Torsten, thanks !

Jacobsen and von Schönermark listed now, marked blue. All names I've checked on those outstanding "wlb" pages are accurate. Scheibert has a lot of typo devils.
1. Sicherungs-Flotille / B.S.O.
German Cross in Gold (1)
Schulz, Gerhard, 28.04.1944, Kapitän zur See z.V., Chef 1. Sicherungsflottille
subordinated to Befehlshaber der Sicherung der Ostsee

With most of the Kriegsmarine basics listed, we will see if and how we can do compilations for the higher headquarters like Befehlshaber and Komm.Adm.
9. Vorposten-Flotille [renamed Sicherungsflotille ]

German Cross in Gold (1)
Peters, Dr. Johannes, 05.01.1944, Korvettenkapitän d.R., Chef 9. VP [Sich]-Flotille
there was a re-naming. "einer Sicherungsdivision" should be wrong indeed.

Bernd :D

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by USAF1986 » 24 Jun 2008 20:08

Bernd,

Per Yerger, this DKiG holder was subordinated to the HSSPF “Rußland-Mitte”.

Siegling, Hans, 11.04.1944, Hauptmann der Schupo, Schtzm.Btl. 57

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Bernd R » 25 Jun 2008 11:42

Added.

The Kommandobehörden section
Waffen-SS
+ SS / Polizei
+ Polizei Award Holders

on [page 82] is edited and appears in a completely new and hopefully better structure now
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 8#p1089448
Not entirely finished I guess but the biggest part of the listing done.
I have removed the Polizei Award Holders section (on page 94 before) to that section.

The master list - page 7 - is updated with all the recent add & corr and defining.

Thanks and regards
Bernd :idea: :D

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Six-Year Anniversary Announcement

Post by USAF1986 » 26 Jun 2008 05:19

There was a short and simple question six years ago – well, we think the biggest part of the job is done!

With the six-year anniversary of this thread upon us, Bernd and I wish to take this opportunity to announce the completion of the bulk of the awards project.

This project, which was begun by Marcus on June 26, 2002, and re-started in August 2006, would not have reached fruition without the talents and resources of many dedicated researchers from virtually every corner of the globe who have given freely of their time and expertise.

What began as an attempt to categorize the holders of the Knight’s Cross of the Iron Cross by unit evolved into a massive, worldwide effort to place the holders of ALL the major awards of the Wehrmacht with their higher headquarters unit of record. This process, which led many of us to delve deeply into the historiography of German WWII organizational structure and development, has resulted in the placement of the holders of the following major awards by unit:

Knight’s Cross of the Iron Cross (and all higher grades)
Knight’s Cross of the War Merit Cross
German Cross in Gold
German Cross in Silver
Close Combat Clasp in Gold
Honor Roll Clasp
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army (unit-level and personal awards)
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army for Shooting Down Aircraft (unit-level and personal awards)
Romanian Order of Michael the Brave, 1st, 2nd and 3rd Classes
Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty, 1st Class with Swords (and all higher grades)

After an immense expenditure of effort over the past six years – with the lion’s share occurring in the last two years – by all concerned, Bernd and I can state with confidence that the placement of virtually all the major award holders of the Heer, Waffen-SS, and Kriegsmarine is complete! While a small number of award holders have yet to be placed (research on these will continue), the vast majority have been properly matched with their unit of record. Therefore what we consider “Phase 1” of the project is finished!

Once all the award lists have been added to their respective unit pages on the Axis History Factbook, we believe the final product will be of great value to researchers and historians alike.

Unfortunately, the primary sources used so far for the holders of the German Cross in Gold and Honor Roll Clasps of the Luftwaffe, Horst Scheibert’s Die Träger des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold (Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, Waffen-SS) und Deutschen Kreuzes in Silber (Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, Waffen-SS and Die Träger der Ehrenblattspange des Heeres und der Waffen-SS/ Die Träger der Ehrentaffelspange der Kriegsmarine/ Die Inhaber des Ehrenpokals für Besondere Leistung im Lukftkrieg, lacks, in almost all cases, an identifiable unit. Thus, the Luftwaffe portion of the project is comprised primarily of the holders of the Knight’s Cross of the Iron Cross and its higher grades.

As one of the inevitable consequences of a project of this scope, we totally overlooked Veit Scherzer’s Die Träger des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold der Luftwaffe 1941- 1945, 1. Aufl., 1992, Nickel (Zweibrücken). We have access to this work and, combined with the standard, step-by-step re-check procedure, the treatment of this section will be classified as part of “Phase 2” of the project.

Other goals for “Phase 2” include classifying the award holders by unit that are grouped under the heading of “raw data” (see page 105 of this thread) and clearing up the “research points / open questions” found on page 80. Also, any award holders that might have been overlooked will be added in this phase. The inclusion of the holders of the Bandenkampfabzeichen (Anti-Partisan War Badge) in Gold is also on the agenda for this phase.

We would like very much to add the German holders of the top grades of many more foreign awards in “Phase 2”. We welcome the participation by anyone who has access to verified rosters, official orders, etc., documenting the German holders of orders and decorations from Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Finland, Croatia, and Slovakia.

This project, immense in scope and rich in detail, could not have become a reality without the help of many individuals. We wish to acknowledge the assistance of the following people for their significant contributions to this project:

Alecci
JC
Jan-Hendrik
Mark V. (Marko)
W. Vermeer
Tobias Giebel
Copilot (Jordi)
Doktor Krollspell
Simon Orchard
coburg22 (James)
1Sqn
Tolga Alkan
Erik E
MICHAELM82 (Michael C. Mcabee)
Timo
Andy H
T.R. Searle
Richard Murphy
Reigo
Requin Marteau
Oberst Mihael
Erich
Christian Ankerstjerne
JohnRayTaylor
Bjørn from Norway
Stormman
hec801
Victor
Dieter Zinke
Martin Block
Endzeit Jan
Heimatschuss (Torsten)

We also wish to thank other great forums and many members there, especially feldgrau.net and panzer-archiv.de for having granted us the opportunity to take important and interesting information from the sites. “Information not shared is lost” – this certainly sums up the spirit of friendly co-existence and co-operation enjoyed by the AHF / Feldgrau / Panzer-Archive research community!

Best regards,
Shawn & Bernd

We would be remiss if we failed to extend a special thanks to:

Marcus Wendel for providing and maintaining this great forum! Thank you for your great co-operation and providing the possibility to get all this “on track” and to finally have all the stuff listed on the Axis History Factbook.

Jan-Hendrik, dear friend, thank you very much for the time, the knowledge and the material you have put into this project – it is always a pleasure! Thanks for digging out an answer to many an obscure topic from seemingly nowhere!

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Doktor Krollspell » 26 Jun 2008 09:57

Hello Bernd and Shawn!

Let me thank you for having taken this arbeit of administrating and compiling these truly great award lists on yourselfs! :D I agree that this thread is of immense value for people interested in award recipients and their units during World War II.


And here's a new(?) LW recipient of the DKiG that Jan-Hendrik posted about over at Feldgrau (Search came up nil):

Oberfeldwebel Wilhelm Nickisch, who received the DKiG on 06.01.1945 while in 3./Gruppe 126(F)


Nickisch flew evacuation flights from Pommern with a BV 138 in the Winter/Spring of 1945. Could his unit designation Gruppe 126(F) be Seeaufklärungs-Gruppe 126? Though this unit was stationed in Italy according to Wolfgang Dierich's "Die Verbände der Luftwaffe" (1993)? Nickisch is yet another recipient of the DKiG not mentioned in Patzwall & Scherzer (2001) but Jan-Hendrik posted a contemporary photograph showing him with the DKiG and also additional facts. Se link...

http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic ... 26&t=25050

USAF1986 wrote:We also wish to thank other great forums and many members there, especially feldgrau.net and panzer-archiv.de for having granted us the opportunity to take important and interesting information from the sites. “Information not shared is lost” – this certainly sums up the spirit of friendly co-existence and co-operation enjoyed by the AHF / Feldgrau / Panzer-Archive research community!
I couldn't agree more! :D :D :D


With best regards from a Swedish Feldgrau maniac, AHF active and Panzer-Archiv hang-around,

Krollspell 8-)

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Nicole S. » 26 Jun 2008 10:23

A really great job was done, a fine form of research cooperation, at its best.

Congratulations,

Nicole

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Bernd R » 28 Jun 2008 10:45

It occured that we forgot to include Doktor Krollspell (Feuerwerker and more) and Simon Orchard (Gebirgsjäger and Kriegsmarine) in the "thank you" list. :oops: Sorry, dear colleagues !
We made up leeway of that - thank you very much, guys !! :D

Krollspell,
Nickisch, DKiG, appears to be 100% a new detection by Jan-Hendrik, Yes !!
Will be part of "Phase 2", starting after a bit of a break to reload batteries. Much "Arbeit" indeed.

Best regards
Bernd :D

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Bernd R » 28 Jun 2008 11:16

Dear Shawn,

thank you for an extraordinary teamwork during this project !
I was a great experience and pleasure for me to always have such a good co-operation. There couldn't have been a better team spirit during the work, the discussions, the decisions and far beyond that.

Horrido !!!
Bernd :D

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Marcus » 28 Jun 2008 11:20

Let me just echo what Shawn wrote above, many thanks to all of you who have helped make this project a success!

/Marcus

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by W.Vermeer » 16 Jul 2008 14:47

Sorry for the short delay, was very occupied with my own project ww2awards.com .
Gents, congratulations with completing Phase 1. It was an honour to be of any assistence. Off course I shall be available for help in any further phases.
One thing bother me :P
With all this work here you all saddled me up with an enormous job. Controlling, checking and updating all the work that is achieved here in the WW2Awards database. Hopefully with doing that I shall stumble on several Phase 2 questions and updates for you again.
Thanks for all the good work together and good luck with all the follo up.

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