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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by jopaerya » 02 May 2009, 17:32

Thanks Emmanuel

According to this site http://members.tripod.com/~nigelef/gunsintro.htm 27 guns were lost in 1940 in use of the B.E.F.

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 02 May 2009, 18:01

Hi Jopaerya and Manuferey,

I had never seen this type of steel wheels on the trailers of the 9.2in BL Mk I and Mk II british howitzers.
I just knew the typical wooden wheels. On the other hand I do not understand the modern rubber wheels in Jopaerya photos :? I do not think the Russians modernize a weapon that only had 4 copies. :roll:

Image from Wikipedia

Regards Sturm78.

PD: according to Wikipedia, the U.S. Army also uses this weapon, manufactured in the USA.
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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by jopaerya » 02 May 2009, 19:14

Hello Gents

This photo from 1940 showes the gun with same wheels as the photo from Emmanuel
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... ch1940.jpg

Regards Jos

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 02 May 2009, 19:29

Hi Jopaerya,

It is unclear if the picture shows an 9.2in (234mm) or 12in (305mm).

Regards Sturm78

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by zhenyuan » 07 May 2009, 15:29

Image

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 18 May 2009, 10:54

Hi all,

I found this images on Ebay. Can anyone help me to identify these coastal guns? Photos are taken in Russia.
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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 18 May 2009, 11:02

...and Part 2:

Maybe the first picture shows a 180mm MO-1-180 but I am not sure.

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by ludvig » 18 May 2009, 13:26

Hello Sturm78,
Thank you for nice photos + sharing with us !!!
Your two first photos ( the tall / box - shield )
is a modernized 203 / 50 with a new elevation +40
Noticed that the gun barrel has been turned up side
down with the recoil system over gun barrel . If J
understand it right , the gun have powered controls
and about + - 14 guns modified .
hopes it helps ???
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ludvig

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 18 May 2009, 18:10

Hi Ludvig,

Thanks for your answer. I suppose you refer the 203mm Vickers M1905 L50, also manufactured in Russia by Obuhov factory, no?

In this link http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussi ... _m1905.htm the mounts seem differents. I guess that my photos show the modernization of these mounts.

Regards Sturm78.

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Manuferey » 18 May 2009, 22:39

Hi Sturm,

Look on page 5 of the following link for some information on this gun at Sevastopol from Jos:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1&start=60

Beute designation: 20,3 cm Küstenkanone L/45 (r)

So it would be different from the Vickers L/50

Emmanuel

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 19 May 2009, 11:07

Hi Manuferey,

Thank you very much for your link. But then, which was the Russian name of this gun? :?
According to this link http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussi ... _m1892.htm , there was also the 203mm M1892 L45, but all were been withdrawn by 1941.

Have anyone any idea for the other two photos of my last post?

Regards Sturm78.

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by ludvig » 19 May 2009, 12:28

Hello Sturm78,
1) the gun iside the big box shield is the 203 Vickers M1905 L 50
2) you asked for Russian 203 ??? Here is a list :
- 203 modell 1867
- 203/30 modell 1877
- 203/35
- 203/45
- 203/50
3)Your photo no 3 with the close-up of a gun breech looks like :
- Russian naval 130 mm B-13 gun ( breech screw opens to right )
( have checked out the 180 , the breech screw opens upwards )
4) your photo no 4 twin mount ( working on it )
hope this helps you ??
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ludvig

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by jopaerya » 19 May 2009, 14:42

Hello

I have the information from the book "Small arms, Artillery and Special weapons"
page 273 M.K.B. von der Goltz near Sewastopol 20.3 cm S.K.L/45 (r) .

Regards Jos

P.S. does anyone know if the Russian recieved any 20.3 S.K.C/34 guns and what was there faith ?

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by jopaerya » 20 May 2009, 09:49

Hello All

For the picture's I think all photo's on the link to Naval Weapons are L/45 just like the ones in Bat . Mamaschai ( Crimea )
the later M.K.B. v.d. Goltz , the L/50 was also used in Crimea in Bat. Bachtschissarai ( first 2 picture's of Sturm ) .

For the last photo of Sturm it's for me Russian , my two cents are the twin 130/50 mm without shield .

Regards Jos

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 20 May 2009, 10:53

Hi all and thanks for your answers.

Summarizing:

-Two first photos: 203mm Vickers M1905 L50, probably of Bat. Bachtschissarai

-Third photo: According to Ludvig a 130mm B-13 gun. I'm not quite sure. :? the gun of my picture looks much more complicated
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussi ... 6_pics.htm

-Fourth photo: According to Jopaerya 130mm B-13 guns in twin mount

Regards Sturm78.
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