Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Ruslan M
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Ruslan M » 19 Jun 2009, 03:22

Hello Gentlemen,

Glad to see you, Bernd! It was unplanned summer holiday. :wink: :P


Bake,

2009-05-19-018321.jpg Erich Morgenstern, Erwin - Peter Diekwisch and Hans Trummer (left to right)


Kameraden,

Your RK holder it's Vinzenz "Zenz" Kaiser


Best wishes :)

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Bernd R » 19 Jun 2009, 12:05

Same here, Ruslan, thanks ! Exactly that was what I said to myself. :lol: Refreshing screen holiday minimum.

Supplement : another one down, from the series of 6 by Fangio on page 83, #3 is Franz Doff

- id'ed by chris44 -
/ Bernd


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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Someone from Kharkov » 19 Jun 2009, 13:23

Two more pics from Bundesarchiv.
The man on second photo is described as Willi Kroymanns, but I haven't found this name in RK list. What's the matter?
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Willibald Freiherr von Langermann und Erlencamp / AHF id
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not an RKT (no proof/no confirmation) Willi (Wilhelm) Kroymanns (4. FJD) / AHF id
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 19 Jun 2009, 15:18

Someone from Kharkov wrote:Two more pics from Bundesarchiv.
The man on second photo is described as Willi Kroymanns, but I haven't found this name in RK list. What's the matter?
Willi Kroymanns is an impostor never awarded with the KC, even the honorable Bundesarchiv has been hornswoggled by this beguiler !!

Dieter Z.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by bake » 19 Jun 2009, 19:55

Thanks Ruslan M

From Ebay

KM RKT
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by John Toner » 20 Jun 2009, 07:37

The other BA one
Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-216-0404-23,_Russland-Mitte-Nord,_General_mit_Ritterkreuz
is Freiherr von Langermann und Erlencamp.

John

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Someone from Kharkov » 20 Jun 2009, 13:48

Unknown pilot from JG 3.
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Bernd R » 20 Jun 2009, 14:21

The index is updated (-> page 280).

Not identified :

page 270 : unknown.jpg

page 271 : rkv1,2.jpgs

page 272 : Clip_2.jpg

page 273 : ELT Fabian,Boigk,Mo(e)se and unbekannt.jpg , 1.jpg (BA) left , KKK

page 274 : s76ye5f2RK.jpg , WT0019 2.jpg

page 276 : unk rkt Goebbels Lutze.jpg , BA pic Aug 42, unk rkt Goebbels~.jpg

page 278 : FJ Ritterkreuzträger (again?) , 0163 EBA.jpg . KM 4 RKT , Friedrich Raaf (?)
11_13_08_218.jpg

page 279 : Image9.jpg , Kurland RK.jpg (again)

and on the confirmation list :
Gerhard Walther, Kdr II./SG 4

Kurt Ubben - Kurt Pflugbeil


of note :
BA pic Aug 42, unk rkt Goebbels~.jpg is requested for the third time ; like on pp. 229, 247 ; hard to id Sevastopol RKT

Kurland RK.jpg (again) : the Kurland RKT, estimated to have been assigned to 12. PD, can be seen with a better quality pic on page 225 .

/ Bernd

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Bernd R » 20 Jun 2009, 14:30

Ruslan,

your previous id of the Lw Bordfunker I have placed on the confirmation list like that :
Award ceremony, Bordfunker SG 5 : left to right : / AHF id : Erich Morgenstern - ? Erwin-Peter Diekwisch or Martin Möbus ? - Hans Trummer

It is connected to the pics of that ceremony we had already :
Award ceremony for two Bordfunker from I./SG 5 : Johann Hans Trummer (l) - Erich Morgenstern (r), presented by Gen. Kammhuber ; commanding officer : Major Martin Möbus ?

The commanding officer was added by me - without certainty. So, last question here : Diekwisch or Möbus. Möbus was Gruppenkommandeur I./SG 5 at that time, if I'm correct.

/ Bernd

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 20 Jun 2009, 14:43

Major with signature...?

Source : http://www.forum.axishistory.com
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Bernd R » 20 Jun 2009, 14:45

There weren't objections to confirmation requests of rather secure ids and therefore Johannes Lutter, Günter Tonne, Walter von Wietersheim and Bernhard Klemz have been crossed out there and placed on the index.

Thanks, dear colleagues, for id work on older reqests ; all done
Terry - p169 Albert Spieth confirmation / p262 Alexander Holle
Chris44 - p232 Johannes Mücke
Someone from Kharkov - p222 Franz Pöschl (great pic btw)

except one, I'm not convinced and would like to re-ask : page 262 : Bild 133.jpg
Hans Bayer for sure ?
Very late award for this Staffelkapitän 3.(F)/33 -> 01.05.1945 , in action during late war period over Hungary. Last rank Hauptmann - but the pic shows a Major ! (if I'm correct).
pic (and short bio) for comparisn : http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.d ... r-Hans.htm

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Bernd

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Bernd R » 20 Jun 2009, 14:56

AlifRafikKhan,

the Major you requested above was requested already in this thread. No id yet.
The source you give -> AHF start page, is totally unsufficient !

/ Bernd

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 20 Jun 2009, 15:04

Sorry, Bernd. I don't remember the exact page, but I know its from Axis History Forum... I take it on my harddisk.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Ruslan M » 20 Jun 2009, 15:23

Hello, Someone from Kharkov,

Pilot from JG 3 it's Winfried Schmidt


Best wishes :)

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Someone from Kharkov » 20 Jun 2009, 15:28

Bernd R wrote:Ruslan,

your previous id of the Lw Bordfunker I have placed on the confirmation list like that :
Award ceremony, Bordfunker SG 5 : left to right : / AHF id : Erich Morgenstern - ? Erwin-Peter Diekwisch or Martin Möbus ? - Hans Trummer

It is connected to the pics of that ceremony we had already :
Award ceremony for two Bordfunker from I./SG 5 : Johann Hans Trummer (l) - Erich Morgenstern (r), presented by Gen. Kammhuber ; commanding officer : Major Martin Möbus ?

The commanding officer was added by me - without certainty. So, last question here : Diekwisch or Möbus. Möbus was Gruppenkommandeur I./SG 5 at that time, if I'm correct.

/ Bernd
It's definitely Erwin-Peter Diekwisch. 100% guarantee. The reasons are:
1)Möbus was Major already at the depicted moment;
2) He received EL a month earlier.

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