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but this info should have been shown with the location or sourced it was copied from? So i am hesitent to say or conclude as to where i got my info and such David can remove this post as I am unsure if the republication of the 3 pics you listed is okay and legal by the original holders of these pics to be republished or viewed on another site
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Reposted from http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6#p1755436Harro wrote:Yet the US Army did investigate the killing by American soldiers of SS guards at Dachau, the killing by American soldiers of German and Italian POWs at Biscari and dozens of other cases.htk wrote:The thing is, I think , no Army want's to investigate these "mistakes" and I am not only talking about the german army..
Reposted from http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 9#p1755439htk wrote:hi harro
as i have understood - please correct me if i am wrong - the dachau "incidents' investigation proved that the guard where murdered by US troops, the report was then made a secret. If this is correct - then it proves only my point. In war such "incidents" are not unusual, and a typical respons was (is) to ignore when possibe.
So might the group Piper have killed (or mopping up as its called today) ... i think probably so. I think its more important to use this as a lesson what war is about .. instead taking here the moral highground and blame it solely on the SS and ignore the truth and so paving the way for the next masacre.
Reposted from http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 3#p1755453Harro wrote:"htk", I don't see how this would prove anything. The Dachau massacre was investigated and that's more than anyone can be said about the German response to the Malmédy killings (or for that matter the murders in Stavelot, la Vaulx Richard, Trois-Ponts, Parfondruy, La Gleize and all other places where members of the Leibstandarte killed POWs and civilians).
htk wrote:that no US soldiers (or other allies probably) are convicted might no be surprising.. and this is not in it self proof that allied soldiers did not act accordingly. One case at least .. see book wild bill guarnere.
"have seen nothing to indicate that it was ever classified. If you have please provide the source. Patton did decide not to prosecute them although if I recall correctly the officer in charge was punished all be it a "wrist slap". ... germans where hanged for this !
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Mopping up is exactly what it is.... the military men really love their non telling words. Sonderaktion was another nice example of this.
My point is not to blame solely the SS (or wehrmacht for that matter) as the only group who did this kind of acts... but that this is a thing encountered also in other wars (before and after WW2). When asking how (accepting that the SS etc where not the only ones)does it pave the way for slaughtering prisoners ?
well look at youtube and you can find a recent examples of prisoners killings in Syria.
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End of April we had already been listening to distant shooting and we had been impatiently waiting for liberators. One day we saw a white flag which was a sign of surrender on the watch tower where there were about 12 SS soldiers. When the Allied soldiers came to high walls to get across SS soldiers started to shoot with machine guns and guns so that there were many Allied soldiers dead. Immediately the striking force of liberators entered the main gate and disarmed soldiers of the watch tower behind the block 30. The Allies threw the arms taken into water, lined up SS soldiers against the wall and let prisoners shoot them all. There were mainly Russians, Poles and Czechs shooting. I saw it all as I was in the immediate vicinity.
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Do you have a source for these claims?Rossolini wrote:I'm not an expert on this incident but I heard the American soldiers gave weapons to the prisoners to basically do as they pleased. They even slaughtered a nearby retreating Wehrmarcht unit.
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