Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 20 Sep 2009 13:23

Ruslan M wrote:foto 18. jpg it's Martin Gareis

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I agree, thank you very much!

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 20 Sep 2009 13:45

chris44 wrote:Hi
Helmut Thierfelder is perfect (see same picture page 168)

same picture of "Ketterer" on page 169
first suggest there was Karl Küspert
which cant be correct concerning rank...

Karl Ketterer could be fine....??
Re: 4. Panzer-Division men
the new request - page 299

Yes, nothing open for Thierfelder : index - page 168 : Helmut Thierfelder

Another photo with clear id for : index - page 168 : Karl Ketterer
There is a similarity IMO, look at the cheek.

But,..the book text (page 299) is wrong then. Ketterer, 7./Pz.Rgt. 15 received the KC in 1943, not in Kurland, and not with 4. PD, if I'm correct !?

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 20 Sep 2009 16:33

Hi docarchiv,

thanks for your big series, both nice fotos and ids !! :D

I'm doing a bit hard to locate the following previous ids. Could you name the pages please (or link to the pic) ?
This is Oberfeldwebel Erich Scheibig !
This is Kapitänleutnant Hanns-Hartwig Trojer !
This is Major Franz Dutter!
I think it is Hauptmann d. R. Wilhelm Reimann! If he lived in Berlin and died there!
It is Hans Sauer during the KC ceremony for Oberfeldwebel Franz Schlund!
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 20 Sep 2009 17:46

docarchiv wrote:
Ingo wrote:Any ideas who this could be ?
This is Jürgen Oesten!
Hello docarchiv,
this is the last of your ids till now which I can't find. Not without much work at least. Member Ingo who asked for it, wasn't active for weeks here, so the pic has to be in a much lower page. The "quote" function of the forum does not include the attached photo, just the text. If you need technical assistance how to create a link to the respective page, sent me a PM please, I'll give you a short help (it is not difficult).
Otherwise, the page number please.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 20 Sep 2009 18:18

Re: the case not Martin Steglich for sure - Walter Kalkhoff perhaps ?
page 302 : unk RKT01.jpg

Here the Hoffmann postcard from the index : (not the best quality ; I'm sure one of us has a better one)
Walter Kalkhoff

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Bernd R wrote:
docarchiv wrote:
Ingo wrote:Any ideas who this could be ?
This is Jürgen Oesten!
Hello docarchiv,
this is the last of your ids till now which I can't find. Not without much work at least. Member Ingo who asked for it, wasn't active for weeks here, so the pic has to be in a much lower page. The "quote" function of the forum does not include the attached photo, just the text. If you need technical assistance how to create a link to the respective page, sent me a PM please, I'll give you a short help (it is not difficult).
Otherwise, the page number please.

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Bernd
Hello,

if I have the time to do it, I will take a look at all the pages and correct this mistake!

Kind regards

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by John Toner » 21 Sep 2009 13:54

Bernd

I don't think the man in RKT 01 looks like Kalkhoff at all (although the only image I have of Kalkhoff is that postcard). Is that a Tank Destruction Badge (PVA) on his right sleeve? Did Kalkhoff have a PVA?

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 21 Sep 2009 22:24

John,

I would agree, I can't state a 100% similarity, too. The PVA situation is not known to me. The officer shoulder boards have been mentioned already, and Kalkhoff's highest rank Oberfeldwebel (according to author Scherzer).
So, as long as nobody says "IS", this is not a Kalkhoff id, right ?

More pics of Kalkhoff would be of interest, Yes.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 21 Sep 2009 22:32

page 231 : a7ff_3jpg
was identified over in the Panzerknacker sticky by docarchiv, thanks ! :D
-> Christian Braun
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6#p1377446

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 21 Sep 2009 22:37

Another one (double) down from the no id list : page 243 : 64b4_1.jpg
identified previously as Günter Bartsch by George (page 298).

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 21 Sep 2009 22:55

Re: the T-34 NCO with PVAs

page 162 : distruttore carri.jpg
and (double / same pic)
page 293 : RK-T-34.jpg (again)

should be Walter Kuhn , Panzerjäger-Abteilung 1.
This according to a colleague watching and also in my point of view. (almost "is").

See attached two examples from a variety of photos available by http://www.hotlinecy.com/KCAPg3-J.htm [source] and on the bottom the standard portrait of Kuhn (source : courtesy of a private collection).

Any doubts on Kuhn or objections ?

/ Bernd

PS: It might be the case, that the group pic is in this thread, too but I could be wrong as well. As always, if you find it, give a hint please.
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 21 Sep 2009 23:05

Finally, the index is updated -> page 305 .

Id work on the lower pages - no id list, part 1 of the index, page 1 - is most welcome as you know.

There were a lot of nice pics with no id so far the last pages by docarchiv as well, therefore again (and tradition),
not identified :

page 303 : Unknown RK.jpg and Unknown RK2.jpg (again) , Foto 9.jpg , Foto 27.jpg

page 304 : Foto 26.jpg , Foto 11.jpg

page 305 : Foto 17.jpg , Foto 16.jpg , Foto 21.jpg , Foto 28.jpg
SS RKT , pic by Anil

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Someone from Kharkov » 22 Sep 2009 09:34

Unknown RK holder from Luftwaffe.
Source: http://ww2.ru/forum/index.php?s=f8a0bd5 ... wforum=126
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by John Toner » 22 Sep 2009 09:39

Alfred Grislawski

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 22 Sep 2009 10:36

John Toner wrote:Alfred Grislawski

John
Alfred Grislawski, indeed!

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