Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by VJK » 06 Oct 2009 16:57

Hi!

Is this Rudolf Veiel?

Source: ebay.de

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by graveland » 06 Oct 2009 17:32

VJK wrote:Hi!
Is this Rudolf Veiel?
Source: ebay.de

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Yes!

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by VJK » 06 Oct 2009 19:51

Thanks Gregg!

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 06 Oct 2009 20:13

Hello,

it is Rudolf Veiel! Same photo I have in auction on militaria321!

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 06 Oct 2009 20:17

Hello,

can anbody show us the Germania-Werft card showing von Tiesenhausen after his KC award? I am pretty sure, then the discussion will be finished. In my eyes von Tiesenhausen received the KC after the return I show. He is wearing the same uniform he is wearing on the photograph showing the board made KC! Interesting discussion I must say!

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 06 Oct 2009 20:40

Hello,

me again. I actually talked to Manfred Dörr. He said that von Tiesenhausen received the KC twice. Once from Frauenheim and a second time from admiral Kreisch. He will take a look at the photograph and call me tomorrow.

A bientot mes amis!

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I add a rare Reinhard Suhren pic for a good night!
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by chris44 » 06 Oct 2009 21:52

thanks docarchiv for sharing this great picture.

this "size of photo" would be fine for all your unknown RKT pictures as well
its easier to identfy if you see all the details :-)

and...... if its possible for you ..please use different JPG names....( A1 A2 A3....) this
would as well be very helpful to find pictures and identifications together


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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 07 Oct 2009 05:09

Hello,

I will do that!

Thank you!

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by John Toner » 07 Oct 2009 07:13

Does this contribute to the Tiesenhausen debate? It was offered for sale on http://www.epier.com about a year ago and has not been identified since, despite requests on different forums. It looks like the same man on the same occasion. Perhaps it will make identification easier (or more certain)

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 07 Oct 2009 08:32

Hello my friend,

so I am right, this is not von Tiesenhausen. Compare the noses! If the photograph still is for sale, please tell me, where I can find it!

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 07 Oct 2009 08:42

Hello,

I think it is Wilhelm Franken or Heydemann! Any agreement? It is difficult!

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 07 Oct 2009 12:36

Hello,

I talked to Manfred Dörr. Seeing only the first picture he excluds von Tiesenhausen. I will send him the other one. My favorit is Wilhelm Franken. Where did he receive his KC?

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by John Toner » 07 Oct 2009 12:51

The one just above with the wooden KC is definitely von T. Compare with this one (from Militaria 321 last week).

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 07 Oct 2009 13:03

No doubt, both come from my collection, but we are talking about an unknown KC holder who is not von Tiesenhausen. I think it is Wilhelm Franken. Franken awarded the KC on April 4th 1943. His boat U 565 came home on May 12th 1943 to ............ LA SPEZIA.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by alabamaguy » 07 Oct 2009 17:24

In the book U-565 by Helmut Jacksch, the identical photo to DocArciv's photo that he questioned, appears on page 7. It is dated May 13, 1943 and is signed by Wilhelm Franken at the top of it. I do not know how to transmit photos but pick up a copy of the book. A great read although in German language only..

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