Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 26 Oct 2009 09:41

Franz Mintert done, thanks docarchiv !
There are 2-3 doubles inside, in particular the original shot uncoloured. If anyone detects one, give a hint please.

Peter Gaßmann done, thanks docarchiv and chris44 !
What about Luft1.jpg above Gaßmann ? One of JG 27 in North Africa ?

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by chris44 » 26 Oct 2009 10:33

page 332 group of RKT
A 1 H 21.jpg (75.48 )

the second RKT from right could be
Robert Rahlenbeck?

and the man in the center could be Wilhelm Bürgel



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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 26 Oct 2009 20:23

page 83 : group of 4 Flak Offz
The man to the right is the previously identified Max Wippermann, too. Michael Fischer is the newly decorated. The other two are still unknown.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by docarchiv » 26 Oct 2009 21:04

page 83 : group of 4 Flak Offz

Hello,

the man on the left is Otto Gemünden! Tell the other one to show me his face. He is not on the pics I saw at Gemünden's home.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by bake » 26 Oct 2009 21:07

From Ebay
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 26 Oct 2009 21:24

The Franz Mintert coloured version we had with the id by docarchiv.
As said inside are as well :
page 89 : Franz Mintert original b/w version
page 47 : Franz Mintert first request

of note : unk.jpg , the pic below the Mintert page 47 pic, doesn't show him IMO. Depicted is a Oblt. if I'm correct, the last rank of Mintert was Uffz.


Re: group of 4 Flak Offz
thanks docarchiv ! :D We can live with the fourth man not visible really, I think. If we are extremely good, we eventually will find out based on the award date / award ceremony at a later time. :)

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Anil » 27 Oct 2009 00:42

George Lengyel wrote:2009-10-15 19-10-00_0129l.jpg (191.42 KiB)

Erich Litzke

Thank you very much George.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Anil » 27 Oct 2009 00:47

Hello,

Unknown Gebirgsjäger-Feldwebel.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Ruslan M » 27 Oct 2009 09:35

Hi,Someone from Kharkov,

It's Erich Löffler.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 27 Oct 2009 09:43

bake wrote:From Ebay
Gerhard Barkhorn?

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 27 Oct 2009 10:16

Hi all,

we had successful 1st round and 2nd round reviews with a good amount of new ids, clarifications and confirmations. There is still remaining the "no id" list - first part of the index on page 1. I know and we have seen it that a number of the crew here is going through the pages in an attempt to find answers for the open points. Let's keep on trying to go for the ideal and to downsize the "no id" to zero. Thanks in advance for your continious engangement and contributions ! 8-) :D

I will go on with the "review" element and therefore and hereby start with the 3rd round review.
Without doubt, this "3rd" will become more difficult and for sure it will be a slower process. Nevertheless, ideally and most likely it will produce results, based on the assumption that a repeated presentation of a case will ring a bell of somebody now. So, the reviews will be a mix of repetitions plus summaries, new details, new/qualified questions, etc. And a few ids/answers hopefully, suggestions at least. (right now this is an agenda, open end)

The first 3rd round review covers the pages 1 - 10 : (starting with the repeated presentaion of three cases)

1) Listed on the confirmations list :
Ulrich Freiherr von Canstein
see summary of this case / questions on page 242
for comparisn : von Canstein drawing

comment : nothing new ; the main argument again : if one detail of the photo is correct - Bremerhaven - there is an impossible match with von Canstein.


2) the officer in "Wintertarnjacke" :
page 1 : Rk5.jpg
and
page 313 : 45.92 (again, page 1, too)


3) the "GD" NCO
page 7 : RK 6001_11.jpg

member Juha Hujanen suggested more detailed :

That pic of GD RK winner is also in Holzträger-In Raging Inferno book and caption says that pic is taken in 44.

So he is Hindelang or:

Wilhelm Czorny
Hans Klemm
Willi Kessel
Fritz Plickat
Hans Roger
Hans Sachs
Wilhelm Wegner


/ Bernd

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 27 Oct 2009 10:27

3rd round review

Confirmations list :
page 4 : Kurt von der Chevallerie

This is totally clear in the meantime perhaps (?). I would confirm von der Chevallerie. Argument :
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 78#p420378 [page 1 of the "bake" sticky]
showing the EL ceremony 13 Feb 1944, FHQ "Wolfsschanze", Rastenburg, with Kurt von der Chevallerie, Hans Gollnick, Friedrich Wiese and Hans Schlemmer.
So, can't be Loch, if the ceremony data are correct !

Would be nice if we could have a further confirmation and/or a photo with von der Chevallerie wearing glasses !

/ Bernd

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Bernd R » 27 Oct 2009 10:40

3rd round review

page 7 : Kurt-Jürgen Freiherr von Lützow
I have some doubts and have an objection here. Isn't he Genlt. Gustav Hoehne ?

reference pics for Kurt-Jürgen Freiherr von Lützow :
page 9 : Kurt-Jürgen Freiherr von Lützow
the three to the right, Yes, the left is the one in question.

reference pics for Gustav Hoehne :
Gustav Höhne , OL, GendInf
Gustav Höhne


end of this review series,
/ Bernd

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

Post by Dieter Zinke » 27 Oct 2009 11:10

Lieber Bernd,

RK - 2380_7 on page 7 is definitively Alfred Wünnenberg, SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Polizei und der Waffen-SS


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