I need help for Id. heavy gun

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Manuferey » 27 Jun 2013 21:42

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

Can somebody identify this German coastal gun?
I think 15cm SK L45 but I am not sure

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I think it is a 15 cm SK L/40 gun (one step on the barrel instead of two for the L/45) of Batterie Beseler at Mariakerke (near Ostende).

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Sturm78 » 28 Jun 2013 09:29

Thank you very much, Emmanuel.

Any idea about this ? 8O :?

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Terry Duncan » 28 Jun 2013 13:08

Hi Sturm,

I do agree with Emmanuel that it looks like the L40 gun because of the single step.

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Manuferey » 28 Jun 2013 22:44

Sturm78 wrote:Any idea about this ? 8O :?
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It is a 28cm Kuestenmörser designated 28 cm Kst. H. L/16 i.

Here is a post-WW1 Belgian postcard showing such an howitzer abandoned by Germans at Blankenberghe (Flanders coast) in late 1918:

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Sturm78 » 01 Jul 2013 22:32

Emmanuel wrote
It is a 28cm Kuestenmörser designated 28 cm Kst. H. L/16 i.


Uummmhhh..... :? I do not think the weapon of my image is an 28cm Kuestenmörser.
It looks like a weapon with a caliber much lower (I think around 15cm) You can see the ammunition shell and the soldier next to the gun.

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Manuferey » 02 Jul 2013 03:02

Sturm78 wrote:It looks like a weapon with a caliber much lower (I think around 15cm) You can see the ammunition shell and the soldier next to the gun.
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Good observation ! I agree with you. The shell looks indeed closer to 15 cm in diameter than 28 cm. :?

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Ruhrpottpreusse » 03 Jul 2013 05:48

Hello!
Blankenberge is next to Zeebrugge.
The Hafenschutzkommando (Harbour-protection group) Blankenberge consisted of three batteries.
Commander was Korvetten-Kapitän Lenne (substitue Kapitänleutnant Schwartzenberg)
There were three batteries:
Batterie Groden (Korvetten-Kapitän Lenne and Kapitänleutnant Schwartzenberg) with four 28cm howitzers and north of them a few 21cm grenade launchers
Batterie Mittel (Oberstleutnant z.S. Ernst and Oberleutnant d.R. Niebert-Krüger) with three (maybe four) 10,5cm canons
Batterie Hafen (Oberleutnant d.R. Baustert-Möhlenbeck) with four 8,8cm anti-aircraft guns on concrete-platforms.

I think, the canon is too short for being an anti-aircraft gun. I assume, the description of the card is wrong, and we have one of the 21cm grenade-launchers to defy the coast against landing-troops in the battery "Groden"

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Heinrich George » 06 Jul 2013 17:33

These photos were taken in 1915 on the Eastern Front. The poster says the guns are Russian but I suspect that some actually may be captured German weapons. The gun in the first photo is marked "No.2", in what does not look like Cyrillic letters, but I don't think that's a German abbreviation for "number" either.

http://www.shorpy.com/node/15578

http://www.shorpy.com/node/15577

http://www.shorpy.com/node/15576

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Sturm78 » 09 Jul 2013 22:45

Hi Heinrich George,

About the images of your links, I think:

Image 1: I think a 24cm Type 45 japanese howitzer 8O 8O
Image 2: I think a 152mm Canet coastal gun
Image 3: No idea

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Terry Duncan » 10 Jul 2013 01:36

Hi,

I would agree with Sturm on guns 1 & 2 and to the unknown nature of No 3!

1. Japanese Army Type 45 24 cm Howitzer http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=10457

2. 152 mm 45 calibre Canet model 1892 coastal gun http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... i_side.JPG http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... asaari.JPG

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Sturm78 » 10 Jul 2013 16:00

Hi all,

The question is: How did this Japanese heavy howitzer come to Europe? :?
Perhaps Japan provide some exemplary to Russia before 1917 .....??

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Ruhrpottpreusse » 10 Jul 2013 17:09

That´s right. After the war from 1905 Japan sold a lot of guns to Russia, even the original Krupp costal-howitzers from 1879, Japan built in license. So german troops were attacked by german guns too...

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby CharlieC » 14 Jul 2013 11:29

Japan and Russia were notionally allies in WW1. Japan sold about 800 artillery pieces to Russia in 1915-17.
Many of the pieces were quite old but there were small numbers of modern pieces. The detailed
list is from Taki (takihome).

518 Type 31 75mm Field Guns
100 Type 31 75mm Mountain Guns
42 28cm Howitzers
34 24cm Mortars
14 L23 24cm Cannons
12 Type 38 10cm Cannons
9 Type 45 24cm Howitzers
16 Krupp 15cm Howitzers
28 Krupp 12cm Howitzers
12 15cm Mortars
12 9cm Mortars
4 Krupp 10cm Cannons

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby Sturm78 » 08 Aug 2013 22:42

Thank you, Charlie.

Here, a rare image of an 21cm Versuchsmörser L10 M1907

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Re: I need help for Id. heavy gun

Postby CharlieC » 09 Aug 2013 00:37

Any idea of the context of this image?

There is a surviving 21cm Versuchsmorser at Red Cliffs, Victoria, Australia - some images at http://www.landships.info/landships/artillery_articles.html?load=/landships/artillery_articles/21cm_Morser_m10.html.

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