Officer of the 7. SS-Freiw.-Gebirgs-Division "Prinz Eugen"

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Post by Charles Trang » 25 May 2007, 12:17

Here is a portrait of von Steuben taken from his personal files. Add him glasses and the confusion is possible ... or understandable.
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Post by waffen-IDF » 09 Nov 2008, 08:05

In 7.SS-Geb.Div Prinz Eugen's KTB dated 1.3.45 he was

Maj und Kdr, I./SS-Geb.AR.7

B:28.10.10 Maj:9.11.44

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Post by waffen-IDF » 09 Nov 2008, 08:41

Hi Mikedc

In 7. SS-Geb.Div. KTB dated 1.3.45 he was Hstuf. und Kdr. of III./SS-GJR 14

B:15.11.14 W-SS Capt:26.07.44 Also member of the Police

He is also listed as the last Kdr. (Maj.) of II./SS-Frw.Gren.Rgt. 36 of SS-Div. "30 Januar" from 03.45 to 05.45.

Before that he was ADC to Jürgen Stroop during the Warsaw Ghetto uprising from 18 January 1943 to 16 May 1943.

Before that he was Captain and Chef of 1./Hamburg Reserve-Polizei-Btl. 101 (as III./Pol.Rgt.25) charge with killing Polish Jews in the the town of Zamosc, Lubin District of the General Government.

Not a poster boy for the Waffen-SS.

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Post by Adam Carr » 09 Nov 2008, 09:33

And who would be a poster boy for the Waffen SS, I wonder?

On the subject of the Order Police in Poland. I've just read Browning's "Ordinary Men" (1992), a vastly better book than Goldhagen's, despite, or perhaps because of, its much more limited ambitions. Browning did not use any of the real names of the Hamburg Order Police in his book, which was a condition of his being allowed access to their files. Now that they are presumably all dead, have the real names been revealed?

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Post by PATRICK CHARRON » 26 Nov 2008, 20:46

Hi,
About Otto Meckelburg, was he the commander of the III./SS-Rgt. 14 at the time of the Otok's massacre?
Otto KUMM wrote about this massacre in his book "Vorwärts Prinz Eugen" edited by Munin Verlag.
In fact there are 3 villages, Otok, Ruda and Dolac Dolnji and thy were 834 victims, including many women and children. But only Dietsche is named in a document from the IMT. (source IMT Document D-945 "testimony of Paul Hausser")
Otto KUMM speaks of court martialled and aquitted commander.
Does it appear in the file of Meckelburg?
What was the ultimate fate of Meckelburg after the war?

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Post by Mikedc » 27 Nov 2008, 14:05

Hello Waffen-IDF,

Thanks for the extra info on Streitmann and Kiekl.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 30 Nov 2014, 18:14

harmel wrote:Hi Tje,Phil Mike etc,here is a nice action photo
of Otto Meckelburg as Cmdr 3/SS-Geb.Jäg.Rgt. 2
Source Magazine 39-43 Sept 2005 by Georges Bernage
Mikedc wrote:About the picture from O. Meckelburg.
Isn't he SS-Stubaf in that picture that Harmel posted on page 1???
phactr wrote:The SS-Sturmbannführer who is in the front cover of 39-45 Magazine is indeed Otto Meckelburg. When this photograph was taken (early spring 1943), he was one of the youngest officers within the division's Gebirgsjäger-Regimenter. This picture comes from the US National Archives.
I cannot claim at the moment whether that is in fact Meckelburg in that picture since the face isn't really visible (but judging by that one photo it doesn't look like him to me), but if it is indeed him it cannot be early spring 1943 since he was promoted to Stubaf. in November that year.

However, these NARA photos from May 1943 do show what Otto Meckelburg looked like (with/without headgear):
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Meckelburg after the war:
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 30 Nov 2014, 18:45

...and this is a very interesting historical document including Meckelburg: this is (future) capital of Montenegro, Podgorica, on 22 May 1943, after Kampfgruppe Meckelburg captured it. The honour guard composed of members of Meckelburg's III/2 is being inspected by General Lüters. Behind him is SS-Hstuf. Meckelburg, with SS-Gruf. Phleps on the extreme left.
Podgorica suffered terribly during the war (it was bombed numerous times) and most of the old buildings were destroyed - which is why documents like this one, showing the old city, are additionally interesting.
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 01 Dec 2014, 15:51

harmel wrote:From the same Mag,which I will certainly order,
on the Right SS Hsuf Heinrich Brichze Cmdt Stabsquartier,
Again, I cannot see clearly enough whether that is in fact Brichze, but that person's rank is SS-Ustuf. not SS-Hstuf.

Any info on Brichze, especially his pre-Handschar service?

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 03 Aug 2015, 12:14

harmel wrote:Hi Tje,Phil Mike etc,here is a nice action photo
of Otto Meckelburg as Cmdr 3./SS-Geb.Jäg.Rgt. 2
Source Magazine 39-43 Sept 2005 by Georges Bernage
a really worth while Mag to collect
Regards Harmel
This "Otto Meckelburg" is in fact most likely Richard Kaaserer (Kdr. I./2) in late 1942.

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Post by Georg_S » 13 Feb 2018, 17:25

Old thread.

On first page names was asked about a couple of soldiers. I can now ad SS-Stubaf. Josef Kikel.
Source: DRK Suchdienst.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 13 Aug 2019, 00:11

harmel wrote:
01 Mar 2006, 01:29
From the same Mag,which I will certainly order,
on the Right SS Hsuf Heinrich Brichze Cmdt Stabsquartier,
and on the left said to be but not pos SS-Ustuf Rudolf Meyer
any info on these two officers??
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Ivan Ž. wrote:
01 Dec 2014, 15:51
I cannot see clearly enough whether that is in fact Brichze, but that person's rank is SS-Ustuf. not SS-Hstuf.
The officers are SS-Ustuf. Anton Wickl (SS-KB-Zug commander) and SS-Ustuf. Viktor Brack (division O2).

A better view of Brack's face:
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Post by Georges JEROME » 13 Aug 2019, 00:36

Ivan Ž. wrote:
03 Aug 2015, 12:14
harmel wrote:Hi Tje,Phil Mike etc,here is a nice action photo
of Otto Meckelburg as Cmdr 3./SS-Geb.Jäg.Rgt. 2
Source Magazine 39-43 Sept 2005 by Georges Bernage
a really worth while Mag to collect
Regards Harmel
This "Otto Meckelburg" is in fact most likely Richard Kaaserer (Kdr. I./2) in late 1942.

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Meckelburg, Otto Stubaf. 14. 9.11 Neustadt b.Danzig SS 99 588
Stubaf Kdr.III./Geb.JR.14 9.44
Hstuf. Kdr.III./Geb.JR.14 6.42
Hstuf. Chef,13./Inf.Rgt.8 4.42
Hstuf. Chef,14./Inf.Rgt.8 7.41
Hstuf. Chef,3./Inf.Rgt.8 3.41
Hstuf. Chef,6./Pz.GR.10 1.41
Ostuf. Art.Rgt.3 11.39
Ustuf. 1./Pi.Btl SS-VT 4.38

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Post by Georges JEROME » 13 Aug 2019, 00:40

Georg_S wrote:
13 Feb 2018, 17:25
Old thread.

On first page names was asked about a couple of soldiers. I can now ad SS-Stubaf. Josef Kikel.
Source: DRK Suchdienst.

//Georg
Kikel, Josef
28.10.10 Seele/Jug.
Stubaf. Kdr.I./Art.Rgt.7 11.44
Hstuf. Chef,1./Art.Rgt.7 6.42

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