Were the uniforms used in Schindler's List accurate?

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Were the uniforms used in Schindler's List accurate?

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Post by paulus » 21 Aug 2003, 23:21

My question as above, if any one can answer it. It came to mind the other day. I have these odd thoughts from time to time.

I am particullarly interested to know the accuracy of the Obergruppenfuhrer uniform worn by Ralph Fiennes. Also, does anyone know the supplier of the uniforms, or were they made for the film (I suspect the latter).

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Post by Director » 22 Aug 2003, 07:49

Hi there,
I'm pretty sure they were acurate - but I don't think the SS Enlisted men would've worn the M1935 uniform, I'm guessing the latter SS ones. I'm probaly wrong. Anyone?


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Post by CHRISCHA » 22 Aug 2003, 10:56

Yes, it is feasable that SS trops wore the 1935 model uniform.
I think Ralph feines charactor (Hoess?) is meant to be a private purchase uniform.

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Post by Director » 22 Aug 2003, 12:00

Amon Goeth, he was Fiennes character. He was a truly evil, sadistic s.o.b. Pitiful. You're probaly right about the uniforms.

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Post by CHRISCHA » 22 Aug 2003, 12:03

Director wrote:Amon Goeth, he was Fiennes character. He was a truly evil, sadistic s.o.b. Pitiful. You're probaly right about the uniforms.
Thankyou. I bloody knew that as well, perhaps I need to engage brain when posting. :oops:

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Post by paulus » 22 Aug 2003, 18:20

Although the film is black & white, but Ralph Fiennes' leather overcoat appears distinctly black. I was under the impression that SS Officers' leather overcoats were grey. Sepp Dietrich's was grey.

I think this was standard in war time, but SS officers may have worn black leather trench coats pre war. Any ideas?

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Post by Helly Angel » 23 Aug 2003, 05:51

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Post by Ardvark » 23 Aug 2003, 10:11

He sure does look the part doesnt he?

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Post by paulus » 23 Aug 2003, 17:07

I have one more question concerning the film. OK it is not about uniforms, but Moderator please bear with me.

When the ghetto is being cleared, a soldier shoots a boy at close range, who is being seized by another soldier (the boy has tried to run away). This soldier shouts something in german to the one that just shot the boy. I do not speak German, and would be interesred to know what he said.

Over to our German speaking friends.

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Post by Darcy » 23 Aug 2003, 17:56

The biggest error I saw in the film was right at the start of it.My research shows Oscar Schindler never recieved a Gold Party Badge.


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Post by Rolf-Gunter Kolb » 23 Aug 2003, 20:12

The Collar Tabs were abysmal to say the least.

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Re: Were the uniforms used in Schindler's List accurate?

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Post by adlerman » 04 Mar 2016, 21:39

The leather cross-strap had been abolished by the time Plascow came into existance. I would have to check whether it came under the WVHA or RSHA, in which case Goeth would have worn Sipo and not Waffen-SS uniform. Adlermann

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Post by Monsoon » 13 Mar 2016, 22:03

Ardvark wrote:He sure does look the part doesnt he?
There was an elder woman on the set that had met the real Amon Goeth. When she saw Ralph Fiennes in uniform, she about lost it.

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Post by Ian Hulley » 14 Mar 2016, 00:50

Goeth was SS-Hauptsturmführer der Reserve by the end of the war, he never received the Iron Cross 2nd Class (the ribbon Feines wears in the button hole and to the left of the ribbon bar). The deaths head tab is truly awful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amon_G%C3%B6th

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Post by Angus1235 » 31 May 2016, 17:34

I wanna know what uniforms some of the guards were wearing. They appear to be black M36 style but have light coloured cuffs and collar? I can't tell the colour with the black and white film.
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