Of course it was "Jewish homeland", but the end of ww2 the homeland was sufficiently powerful to declare independence (on 14 May 1948). And:Sid Guttridge wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 10:25The 1917 declaration and the League of Nations between the wars say nothing about a Jewish State. It is understandably what Zionist Jews were after, but it was not what was promised them. That came in the collective guilt after WWII.
..This definition of the National Home has sometimes been taken to preclude the establishment of a Jewish State. But, though the phraseology was clearly intended to conciliate, as far as might be, Arab antagonism to the National Home, there is nothing in it to prohibit the ultimate establishment of a Jewish State, and Mr. Churchill himself has told us in evidence that no such prohibition was intended.
UNITED NATIONS SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON PALESTINE, REPORT TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, New York 1947
After the collapse, the countries were more or less (rather less) created along ethnic lines, but only selected few were allowed to enjoy that, most weren't - this included territories conquered by the British and French Empires.Sid Guttridge wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 10:25I have in mind all the nation states of Eastern and Central Europe that emerged from the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian, Russian, Turkish and German empires.
I don't deny borders were drawn along ethnic lines, I don't deny it was called self-determination.
But it wasn't an international rule, to be one it must be accepted by all and implemented everywhere. And it hasn't been to this day.
As you wrote yourself the employed by the Allies self-determination depended on "results" so it wasn't a law, it was the mercy of the victorious. No law should depend on results.
My point was the legitimacy of Wilson's statement wasn't based on a non-existent international rule but on the fact, the US and the Allies won the war, it was accepted by the Germans victor's justice. btw nothing wrong with that.Sid Guttridge wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 10:25Are you saying that the sole instigator of a Polish state after WWI was the US president and that no Poles wanted one? I doubt it, but that is the implication of what you posted. Please clarify.