General der Flakartillerie Ludwig von Schröder (1884-1941)

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General der Flakartillerie Ludwig von Schröder (1884-1941)

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Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 28 Jan 2018, 15:55

Decorations & Awards:
- RK des Kgl. Preußß. Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern: 15.06.1918
- 1914 EK I
- 1914 EK II
- Kgl. Preuß. Kronen-Orden IV. Klasse am Bande der Rettungsmedaille
- Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse mit Spange „Vor dem Feinde“
- Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz I. Klasse
- Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
- Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz
- Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond
- Kgl. Preuß. Rettungsmedaille am Bande
- Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer 1914/1918
- Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse
- Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern
- Ritter des Johanniter Ordens (Class unknown)

Does anyone have info on his foreign awards? Or the class of his Johanniter Orden membership?
The first photo below shows he had 2 rows of ribbon bar.
What is the medal on the second photo?
Thanks.
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Post by graveland » 28 Jan 2018, 16:33

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:Or the class of his Johanniter Orden membership?
Ehrenritter des Johanniter-Ordens
Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:What is the medal on the second photo?
Looks like the Luftschutz-Ehrenzeichen 1.Stufe.


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Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 28 Jan 2018, 17:01

graveland wrote:
Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:Or the class of his Johanniter Orden membership?
Ehrenritter des Johanniter-Ordens
Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:What is the medal on the second photo?
Looks like the Luftschutz-Ehrenzeichen 1.Stufe.
Source for the Ehrenritter?
I agree with the Luftschutz-Ehrenzeichen 1.Stufe! Great job.
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Post by graveland » 28 Jan 2018, 17:18

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:Source for the Ehrenritter?
Photographic evidence.

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Post by iggy88 » 05 Jul 2018, 10:32

Here is some info from the KTB of Militärbefehlshaber in Serbien regarding Schröder's injury in an air accident & subsequent death:
"General Schroeder flog mit Fieseler Storch in Begleitung des KVR Gratzer nach Uzice zwecks Rücksprache mit Feldkdt. 816 über die dortige Lage. Bei der Landung in Belgrad wurde die Maschine durch eine Böe gegen eine Starkstromleitung gedrückt und begann zu brennen. Durch Absturz erlitt der Befehlshaber Oberschenkelbruch und andere innere Verletzungen. KVR Gratzer Gehirnerschütterung, Flugzeugführer Feldwebel Mayer schwere Brandwunden, welchen er erlag.“ (18 Jul 1941)
"General der Flakartillerie Schroeder ist an einer durch die Verletzungen beim Flugzeugabsturz verursachten Embolie gestorben.“ (27 Jul 1941)

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Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 05 Jul 2018, 10:40

Thank you iggy.
I thought he crashed near Hohenlychen? That is the info in Deutschlands Admirale 1849-1945 book.
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Post by askropp » 05 Jul 2018, 15:24

Very interesting. It seems as if Schröder was transported to Germany for treatment and died there. Hohenlychen became famous as a SS-Lazarett, and Schröder is said to have held a SS-rank (Gruppenführer). Maybe this is the connection that took him there? Even more important, his DoD was given as 28 July, and this must be wrong as his death was noted in Belgrad a day before!
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Post by Dieter Zinke » 05 Jul 2018, 17:08

01.10.1937 Eintritt in die SS (Mitgliedsnr. 288.517)
01.10.1937 SS-Brigadeführer
01.10.1937 - 28.07.1941 SS-Führer beim Stab RFSS
20.04.1941 SS-Gruppenführer


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Post by askropp » 05 Jul 2018, 17:21

Danke, Dieter. Maybe this was backdated? I can't find Schröder in the 01.12.1937 DAL. But I now found a reference in the KTB MilBefh Serbien:

"23.07.1941 Da sich Zustand des Befh. nicht besserte, wurde derselbe mittels Flugzeug ins Reich überführt."
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Post by iggy88 » 05 Jul 2018, 18:29

Here are a couple of photos of Schröder taken 06 Jul 1941 at a Großkundgebung der Volksdeutschen in Belgrad. Not the best quality, but I don't think they have been posted elsewhere on AHF.
(Source: NARA T-501 R-245)
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Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 04 Nov 2018, 17:01

Still no luck identifying his ribbon bar...
Can anyone help?
Thanks.

His list of awards I have:
-Ritterkreuz des Königlichen Preussischer Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern (15. 06. 1918)
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
-Königlich Preussischer Kronen-Orden IV. Klasse am Bande der Rettungsmedaille
-Königliche Preußische Rettungsmedaille am Bande
-Grossherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz I. Klasse
-Grossherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse mit Spange “Vor dem Feinde”
-Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
-Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz
-Kaiserliche Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond
-Ehrenritter des Königliche Preussischer Johanniter-Ordens
-Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
-Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse
-Luftschutz-Ehrenzeichen I.Stufe
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern

1st photo below:
First row:
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
- Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern
- Ritterkreuz des Königlichen Preussischer Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern
- Grossherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse ???
- Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz ???
- Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz
- Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
- ??? (a crown device perhaps)
- ??? (partly visible bright ribbon)

Second row:
- Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung I. Klasse
- Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse
- Luftschutz-Ehrenzeichen I.Stufe ???
- ???
- ???
- ???
- Kaiserliche Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond ???
- ???
- ??? (on the 2nd photo below a rosette is visible on this ribbon)

On the 2nd photo below the 6th ribbon in the 1st row has a Spange, could it be the Sudetenland Medaille with Spange "Prager Burg"? Or is it the Spange "Vor dem Feinde" of the Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse?
3rd photo below: what is the last medal? Is it the Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse? I think there is another ribbon right of the WH DA.
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Post by luftk » 04 Nov 2018, 17:29

First row:
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
- Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern
- Ritterkreuz des Königlichen Preussischer Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern
- Grossherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse
- Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
- Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz
- Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
- Königlich Preussischer Kronen-Orden IV. Klasse am Bande der Rettungsmedaille
- Königliche Preußische Rettungsmedaille am Bande

Second row:
- Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung I. Klasse
- Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse
- Luftschutz-Ehrenzeichen I.Stufe
- ???
- ???
- ???
- Kaiserliche Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond ???
- ???
- ??? (on the 2nd photo below a rosette is visible on this ribbon)

On the 2nd photo below the 6th ribbon in the 1st row has a Spange, could it be the Sudetenland Medaille with Spange "Prager Burg"? Or is it the Spange "Vor dem Feinde" of the Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse?

Spange "Vor dem Feinde" of the Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse


3rd photo below: what is the last medal? Is it the Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse? I think there is another ribbon right of the WH DA.


There is another ribbon after the Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse.

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Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 04 Nov 2018, 17:35

Thanks luftk. Could the last ribbon with the rosette be the Grand Cross of the Portuguese Military Order of Christ you mentioned before?
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Post by luftk » 04 Nov 2018, 17:46

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
04 Nov 2018, 17:35
Thanks luftk. Could the last ribbon with the rosette be the Grand Cross of the Portuguese Military Order of Christ you mentioned before?
He may have this but it also could be the Portuguese Order of Aviz, OR something totally different.
It is hard to decide which he had. Perhaps someone has the photo of him wearing this breast star?

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Post by VJK » 05 Nov 2018, 13:37

Hi,

Here is a pic of Schröder with breast star, but I don't know which one.

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