► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by Jose85 » 04 Feb 2019 14:41

...Citroen T45 (ZiS in front? not much to be seen)
dulag127roslawlcitroen.jpg
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and now...
really horrible quality photo, but looks like 2 examples of Renault AGR "fourgon TSF"? There was some discussion about the type of use by Germans. Wonder if that long pole belongs to the truck?
The third car could be Citroen T45 with a field made box?
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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by Jose85 » 06 Feb 2019 20:50

Renault AGK, the third one Renault AGC?
renaultagkbeidubnoukraine.jpg
Peugeot DK5J
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another Peugeot, some 02 based van
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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by Sturm78 » 06 Feb 2019 21:53

Hi all,

Another image of a unknown Berliet truck....

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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by SIS 5 » 07 Feb 2019 19:40

Hi Jose,

thank You very much for posting so interesting pics. Here my comment to the first series of pics You posted:
First pic: yes, the first truck is a Russian ZiS.
Third pic: You wrote, that the trucks look like 2 examples of Renault AGR "fourgon TSF". I think You are right: TSF is the abbreviation for "transmission sans fil" = wireless tranmission). In the book ""L´automobile sous l´uniforme" by Francois Vauvillier is the information, that Renault built 95 body stile type AGR equipped with SIF (Société industrielle de télégraphie sans fils) in the winter 1939 - 1940 for the French air force.
The Peugeot van on the last pic could be the type SK 3 for 800 kg.

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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by the Rocketman » 08 Feb 2019 11:39

Hi Jose

Your posting 3152
the last vehicle after the Renault AGK in line is a Borgward 1,5 ton lieferwagen
Borgward-1,5to-WL.jpg

Greetings Bert
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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by ilfil » 08 Feb 2019 15:08

Sturm78 wrote:
06 Feb 2019 21:53
Hi all,

Another image of a unknown Berliet truck....

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VSFD model it is, IMHO.
"...and on the 8th day He made truck so that man, made on 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night."

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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by Jose85 » 09 Feb 2019 10:28

Hello,
and Thanks!

Licorne Rivoli, this took me a while to identify...
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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by Jose85 » 09 Feb 2019 16:19

Renault something-quatre fourgon
renaultfourgonparis1941.jpg
Citroen T23
citroent23tarn.jpg
Renault AGC
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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by Maxschnauzer » 09 Feb 2019 23:52

Jose85 wrote:
09 Feb 2019 16:19
Renault something-quatre fourgon
renaultfourgonparis1941.jpg
Hi jose,
Your fourgon looks based on the 1939 Vivaquatre BDH-3 Berline chassis:
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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by SIS 5 » 10 Feb 2019 16:36

Hi Jose, hi Max,

I have it under the designation type AFP. Here pic of this vehicle.

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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by Maxschnauzer » 10 Feb 2019 23:35

Very good, Bert. 8-)
It was advertised as a 1,000 kilogs Camionnette Utile:
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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by SIS 5 » 11 Feb 2019 08:28

Hi Max,

thank You very much for the advetisement. I didn´t know that this vehicle had a load capacity of 1000 kg.

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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by Maxschnauzer » 11 Feb 2019 11:22

Yes, it seems small for a one tonner. I also find this interesting; though it's hard to read maybe you can help me make sense out of these numbers:
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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by SIS 5 » 11 Feb 2019 12:57

Hi Max,

that´s really interesting. Thanks for posting.
Here my explanation to these types:
AGZ: payload 250 kg (two times mentioned)
AGS: weight - 1000 kg / payload - 500 kg
AFP: weight - 1500 kg / payload - 1000 kg

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Re: ► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by Maxschnauzer » 12 Feb 2019 09:23

Thanks, Bert.
That's pretty much what I assumed for the last two, but I couldn't make any sense out of the two 250's.
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